Re: [ga] no problem with www.nukeisrael.com

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

While i have only a third party role in such matters by way of dubious tradings, I do know this; Sites like this one help our govs track the users. And yes they do. Closing it down may close off information that is helpful to tracking the bad guys. Ask yourself who would frequent, not visit once out of disgust, but frequent it? Who would?
  You are correct on your analysis, but sometimes in order to catch the bad guys you let them break the little laws in order to prevent worse laws being broken.
   
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Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  For your consideration:

http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=0959
>From the Internet Haganah:

Tucows: Nuke Israel? No problem.

When presented with Tucows involvement in maintaining
the domain name nukeisrael.com, a Tucows/OpenSRS
Compliance Officer responded on behalf of the company
as follows:

Under what authorization would I be shutting down the
name?

What *exactly* is wrong with the *domain name* and
where is it written (in our accreditation with ICANN)
that I have the authority to be the ?moral custodian
of the internet?

We realize the following news may come as a shock to
Tucows and it?s employees, but they do not live on
Planet ICANN. They live on Earth, in a country called
Canada, where a state of affairs prevails that is
commonly known as The Rule of Law?.

In the hope of clearing up the confusion regarding

? "under what authorization?"

? "what *exactly* is wrong?"

and

? "where is it written?"

we refer one and all to Sections 318 and 319 of the
Criminal Code of Canada which make it a criminal
offence to:

advocate genocide _ publicly incite hatred _ wilfully
promote hatred

against an "identifiable group."

An identifiable group is defined as any section of the
public distinguished by:

colour _ race _ religion _ ethnic origin

The domain name nukeisrael.com clearly advocates
genocide and wilfully promotes hatred to the point
that genocide is presented as a viable option.

Israelis, being mostly Jews, constitute an
"identifiable group" by race and/or religion and/or
ethnic origin.

Three out of four is pretty good when only one is
required.

We present the complete Criminal Code references at
the end of this article.

Regarding nukeisrael.com we?d say there is not much
left but for the RCMP to deliver the news to Tucows in
person. However, the above doesn?t even begin to
address the various jihadist, Islamic extremist and
terrorist organization domains that Tucows profits
from by providing them with vital services.

A review of our database of jihadist and terrorist
organization websites finds the following domains
maintained currently by Tucows. A few of the domains
may not be associated with active websites at this
time:

Domain Name: kavkazcenter.com 
Orientation: Kavkaz/Chechen Jihadist

Domain Name: fateh.org 
Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade

Domain Name: palvoice.com 
Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade

Domain Name: ikhwan.net 
Orientation: Muslim Brotherhood

Domain Name: www.alwatanvoice.com 
Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade

Domain Name: jamaaway.org 
Orientation: Palestinian Islamic Jihad

Domain Name: kataebaqsa1.com 
Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade

Domain Name: www.alkotla.com 
Orientation: Hamas

Domain Name: moqawmh.com 
Orientation: Popular Resistance Committee (Gaza)

Domain Name: jihad-algerie.com 
Orientation: al-Qaida (GSPC, Algeria)

Domain Name: tasjeelat.net 
Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist

Domain Name: khilafat.org 
Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir

Domain Name: Hizb-ut-Tahrir.info 
Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir

Domain Name: islamic-state.org 
Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir

Domain Name: jamaat-islamia.org 
Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist

Domain Name: islamso.org 
Orientation: Hamas

Domain Name: alfirdaws.org 
Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist

Domain Name: isocg.org 
Orientation: Hamas

Some of the above domains are clearly associated with
bona fide terrorist organizations. Others, such as the
Hizb ut-Tahrir sites, may well be in violation of
Canadian hate speech law, though that would require an
analysis of each site?s content. Note that Hizb
ut-Tahrir has been outlawed throughout much of the
world precisely because of such activity.

While it is clear that neither domain name registrars
such as Tucows, nor datacenters, nor website hosting
companies really want to deal with issues such as
this, the fact remains that all such companies benefit
from the fact that they have a civil, lawful society
in which to operate. It is not unreasonable to expect
them to return the favor to society in the form of
responsible behavior. We have seen, in the recent case
of the domain names of the Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades
of Hamas, that responsible domain name registrars
will, in fact, suspend a domain name when they finally
come to grips with the gravity of the situation. The
only question is how many times to you have to hit
them over the head with a clue-by-four before they
"get it".

Full article at http://internet-haganah.co.il/harchives/005511.html

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