Re: [ga] registration info on domain names

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

legal infraction in which country by which laws?

In some countries, it's the government having access to that information
that is feared most.

Chris McElroy, President,
Kidsearch Network
http://www.KidsearchNetwork.org
http://www.MissingChildrenBlog.com
http://www.RunawayTeens.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] registration info on domain names


> Dr. Dierker and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/users,
>
> I agree that going after perpetrators or suspected perpetrators and
> using
> Whois data as a tool for doing so is prudent.  However, ONLY law
> enforcement should have the direct contact information for Domain Name
> holders in order to protect the majority of Domain Name registrants from
>
> undue harassment and unnecessary legal costs that would and do incur
> to protect their identity and protect themselves from Identity Theft
> which
> is the single largest and most costly civil/common law type or case
> there
> is.  As one that has suffered ID theft myself,. I can attest to the cost
> as
> being horrendous in recovering from such damage ID theft causes.
>
> The whois records can be and our members believe strongly should be,
> secured or made only accessible to law enforcement in the event of
> a legitimate suspected legal infraction.  And even than only when other
> means of determining if such a complaint that has been filed have all
> been exhausted.
>
> Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> >    Times change. I used to be a fervant opposer of information being
> > required for registering a domain name. Of course back then the
> > requirement was pushed by IP folks so they could locate and sue
> > infringers. Well i thought then and still do that it is an invasion of
> > privacy. However nowadays the rules are used more to track down
> > renegade spammers, kiddy porn freaks, fraudulent scheme jerks and
> > terrorists.
> >   Oh you can still be an artful dodger, although it is getting
> > tougher. And you still should register through a service or proxy.
> >
> >   But to me that great pendulum which weighs violation of privacy
> > versus public good seems to have swung a bit toward the side of
> > registration.
> >
> >   Therefor I suggest any new tld be required to prove a reasonably
> > effective manner of identifying registrants. Personally I reccomend
> > certifiying Agents for Service of Process as most countries do for
> > corporations.
> >
> >   e
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
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