Re: [alac] RE: [alac-admin] Re: [ga] More ALAC Follies

[Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Vittorio,

With all due respect, while it is true that many
long-time GA participants are given to feisty
verbalizations, it is also true that they are the true
participants in the ICANN process.  Unlike your
certified structures, we "individuals" actually
provide forthright discussion/commentary and interact
regularly with members of the ICANN Board.  

>From day one we have argued that our key concern is
not "participation" (as we all vigorously
participate), but rather "representation".  You
haven't listened.

Your ALAC remains a barrier to the realization of such
representation for individuals as there are still
those on the Board that would prefer to give your
group, the ALAC, even more time to solve its myriad
problems rather than having to face the prospect of a
group of individuals in their midst clamouring for
representational rights.

You can help us achieve this goal of representation by
folding up the ALAC tent.  

The GA once had a representative structure.  There
used to be elected at-large representatives on the
Board.  All that we have now is your dysfunctional
group that remains an impediment to attaining the
representation that every other entity within ICANN
enjoys.

You are not performing a service for the at-large,
rather the ALAC's very existence constitutes an
ongoing disservice to the at-large.  

Please remember your roots.  You used to respect
consensus.  If you polled everyone that was formerly
on the icannatlarge mailing list, or the GA list, the
consensus conclusion would call for shutting down the
ALAC immediately as an irredeemable and horribly
failed experiment.

You've had your chance.  Move on.  Recommend the
dissolution of the ALAC.

Best wishes,
Danny



--- Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ha scritto:
> > Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> > <snip>
> > 
> >>we do not grant exclusives to our
> >>applicants, we just verify whether they meet some
> basic criteria.
> > 
> > 
> > What criteria?!  As Richard Henderson pointed, out
> most of your approved
> > alac 'structures' don't even have a web site, and
> those few who do have NO
> > web based mechanisms for user
> interaction/input/discussion!
> > 
> > Give it up Vittorio!  The sham is now patently
> clear to everyone.  You and
> > your alac DO NOT represent dns users in any way
> shape or form; you
> > represent yourselves and you're simply another
> group of snouts feeding at
> > the ICANN trough as Abel Wisman pointed out... 
> Shame on you (but you
> > probably have no concept of shame anyway).
> 
> Sorry, you and some other long-time GA participants
> seem to have a very 
> strange concept of dialogue. I am more than happy to
> discuss successes 
> and failures of the ALAC model both publicly and
> privately - in fact, 
> this is one of the major items on our Vancouver
> agenda - but only on the 
> basis of reciprocal respect.
> Thanks,
> -- 
> vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
> bertola.eu.org]<-----
> http://bertola.eu.org/  <- Prima o poi...
> 



		
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