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Re: [ga] A Monroe Doctrine for the Internet
- To: RBHauptman@xxxxxxx, faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [ga] A Monroe Doctrine for the Internet
- From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:55:30 -0800 (PST)
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RB,
Ismy Dr. Dierker
You draw some very strange generalities. Last i checked i am an American and a USA citizen, even though i have lived in Paris France, Puebla Mexico and Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam and am married to a foreign (to USA) National and i do not fit into the "we" you so arrogantly use. I do refer to Panama, where my son currently resides, as part of America, and except in Mexico where most refer to Canadians and USA as "Norte Americanos" (even though Mexico is technically 90% part of North America) i have never been taught otherwise. You speak as though you get all your information out of mass media or PBS. You do not speak as though you have ever lived amoung people of a different land, although you have probably toured or been on business trips. All three of my children have travelled extenively and all speak a foreign language as do 75% of their friends. Within one mile of my home you can practice everything from French to Tagalog to Spanish to Farsi to Swahili and even Mung if y!
ou so
desire. Have you ever tried Samoan or Russian or Japanese - these are all found here and here is the USA. You do not know the real world, you must live in a mansion in Pocatello Idaho. Walk for one mile in Manhattan, or go for a hike in Pennsylvania or visit China Town in SF or Little Saigon near Disneyland and tell me we do not speak different languages. You are a fool. Even your claim as to not speaking "Arabic" is ludicrous and i bet you do not even know why - a little hint, there are over 22 dialects in Farsi - over 200 million use some form of Arabic and there are only about 35 major dialects of this lingua which are usually as different as Portegeuse and Mexican. So you see your comment is foolish and derived from a flashy headline that is full of crap.
Do not wish my friend, wake up! America - no not only the USA - is full of people of travel and global perspectives and every conceivable language in the world, you in your ivory tower are the bigot, I bet you cannot even name 8 of the dialects of "American Anglais".
For further reading on this subject review the archives of the GA and look for Elizabeth Portenuevos' and my work in the WG -Multilingualism, I believe starting around 2/1/01.
Ma' assalma
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RBHauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:
Unfortunately Americans (US Americans) do not refer to the rest of the Hemisphere as "America". We are taught that "we" here in the United States are "America", period. And therein lies one of the major problems. We are self-centered, arrogant, think we know it all, and have little regard, usually, for the rest of the world. Just look at how few of us even bother to learn another language. It is part of the American (US American) psyche. Remember 9/11 when it was discovered that no one in the CIA and other agencies, spoke Arabic. That is laughable on one hand and truly pitiful on the other.
Oh how I wish I live to see the day when that is different.
Rick Hauptman
US American
faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
For all.
When you want to express something about United States, please say: US, USA, United States, or something like that.
When you want to express something about all America: (Latin America, Caribbean Area, North America), please express: America, Americas.
Monroe maybe was one of the biggest problem in the development of a real latinamerican area, Monroe express: America for the Americans, but some people (in special in USA) understand America for the USA.
So, please, almost in this "international space of dialogue", express correctly.
And only for put some ideas in the discuss, some year ago, a latinamerican proposal for try to help in the academic discuss about what doing with the cyberspace appear in 2001. This project called: "The Internationalization of Cyberspace for a Legal E-Qual World: A Latin American Initiative" (http://www.alfa-redi.com/gic/
Well.
see you.
Erick
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