Re: [ga] RE: WSIS Working Group

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Danny and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

I gather from Danny's indirect remarks in response to Marylyn's below
that the ambiguity of her answer to Danny's direct question is an
indication
that no such archives actually exist and/or were any such open and
transparent discussions had ever taken place.  Which is the real case
I suppose we will never know or be able to verify and/or document
accurately.  This is both unfortunate and troubling but not uncommon
given ICANN's history.

BTW, one of our members could not locate the documentation to
which Marilyn is referring to nor any such archives as Danny has
requested of same.

Danny Younger wrote:

> Hi Marilyn,
>
> Thank you for the input.  I guess that when I see the
> term "Working Group" I usually expect to see a
> discussion forum that in the ICANN spirit of
> transparency is publicly archived and covers several
> months worth of commentary.
>
> On such a Working Group discussion list I would expect
> to see comments, debate and discussion right up until
> the start of the Summit that reflects the convergence
> of views on the part of ICANN participants.
>
> >From your reply I would gather that no URL is
> available for discussions that may have transpired
> since Mar del Plata, and that the Working Group has no
> fresh commentary that it will be having introduced as
> an intervention into the WSIS process.
>
> --- Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > The discussions/presentations/statements [whatever
> > we call them] in the
> > ICANN meetings were real time transcribed, and are
> > available. Is that what
> > you are looking for? The group also developed and
> > posted a short statement
> > as guidance to the ICANN board and staff, and
> > distributed it in MdP. That
> > should  be on the ICANN web site, as well.
> >
> > Regards, Marilyn
> >
> > At 09:11 05/11/13 -0800, Danny Younger wrote:
> > >I'd be interested in seeing the archived
> > discussions
> > >of the WSIS Working Group (at least during the last
> > >six month period).  Can anyone point us to a URL?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Upstairs here at the ICANN.org site they have a
> > > > nifty little statement;
> > > >
> > > > ICANN at the World Summit on Information Society
> > > > Stakeholders from many of ICANN's bottom-up
> > > > partnership structures have participated in the
> > WSIS
> > > > process. Key representatives from these groups
> > have
> > > > organized a WSIS Working Group, through which
> > > > several sessions on WSIS have been held at ICANN
> > > > meetings. ICANN will participate in the second
> > Phase
> > > > of the WSIS, and attend the Tunis summit.
> > > > Learn More about ICANN at WSIS
> > > > 11 November 2005
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Which brings you to some stuff that includes
> > this;
> > > >
> > > > Who Will Control the Internet? | Foreign
> > Affairs,
> > > > November/December 2005
> > > > Foreign governments want control of the Internet
> > > > transferred from an American NGO to an
> > international
> > > > institution. Washington has responded with a
> > Monroe
> > > > Doctrine for our times, setting the stage for
> > > > further controversy.
> > > >
> > > > It is not written factually at all using words
> > like
> > > > "want" and "setting the stage for further
> > > > controversy". And note the term "Washington" as
> > > > opposed to ascribing the position to
> > individuals.
> > > > This is the basis for plausible denial on ICANN
> > > > members behalf. While the data is very
> > informative
> > > > the slant in which this info is relayed tells me
> > > > that many at ICANN are hedging their bets so
> > that
> > > > they keep their job either way the wind blows.
> > > >
> > > > e
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
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