Re: [ga] A Monroe Doctrine for the Internet/Golden Book

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff,
 
I think it is relevant, in a strange sort of way. It shows the anti-Bush administration bias of those in the USA and the anti-USA bias from those outside. Notice the vindictiveness applies accross the board and is totally irrelevant to the running of the net.
My fear is that much of the WSIS anti-USA bias is just that and not really about improving the net. All I have seen is the tearing down of status quo but not one plan has been put forward.
We shall see what the "Golden Book" puts forth. I am afraid it is just anti-Monroe Doctrine.
 
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Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Andy and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Prey tell, how is this diatribe relevant to the subject line of this
thread?

Andy Gardner wrote:

> US Military aid? Isn't that an Oxymoron?
>
> I guess you think what you're doing in Iraq right now is military aid?
>
> The best aid the USA could give the world would be to ban it from
> ever formulating any more "foreign policy" and stop trying to (badly)
> fix it's prior mistakes.
>
> Oh, and disbanding the CIA. That's ANOTHER oxymoron.
>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:01 AM, kidsearch wrote:
>
> > I'll just consider the source. I suppose you factored in all the
> > military
> > aid, not just humanitarian aid? I didn't think so. Did you also
> > include the
> > money given tto the UN? I didn't think so. Is our children
> > learning? is a
> > good bush joke, so your post wasn't completely nonsensical.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Gardner" 
> > To: "kidsearch" 
> > Cc: ; 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] A Monroe Doctrine for the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 11:15 AM, kidsearch wrote:
> >
> >> So, I gather that you can give a list of countries that have given
> >> more aid to 3rd world countries than the USA has.
> >
> > Japan, but that's only if you look at the total dollar figure. If you
> > take it on e per-capita basis or % of GDP, the USA is well down the
> > list. Quoting http://www.realityofaid.org/roareport.php?
> > table=roa2002&id=21
> >
> > "Total aid from all 22 DAC donor countries in 2000 was US$53.7
> > billion, down 0.4% in real terms from 1999. Japan and the USA were
> > the largest donors in cash terms, with Germany the UK and France also
> > giving from US$4 billion to just over US$5 billion. (See Graph 16).
> >
> > While donors from G7 countries with large economies show up towards
> > the top of the list of aid donors in terms of volume, their
> > performance looks much worse when aid given is measured as a share of
> > donor GNI. (See Graph 17). Only five donors ? Denmark, Netherlands,
> > Sweden, Norway and Luxembourg ? meet the UN 0.7% target for aid as a
> > share of national income, established in 1970.
> >
> > Countries such as the United States and Italy give a pitiful share of
> > their wealth in aid. Most G7 donors have allowed their aid to decline
> > as a share of their growing wealth over the last ten years. Even as
> > the Financing for Development Summit approached, G7 donors allowed
> > their aid to fall by 3% in real terms between 1999 and the latest
> > available figures covering the year 2000. On average the G7
> > countries, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and the USA
> > now give just 0.19% of GNI in aid ? even lower than their 0.21%
> > figure for 1999."
> >
> > Is our children learning?
> >
> >> Have to ask that question because as much fun as some people have
> >> bashing the USA, it is the very first country they call on for help
> >> when they are attacked or have a problem too big for them to handle.
> >>
> >
> > Well, if you want to lay claim to be the "greatest nation in the
> > world" I'm afraid you're going to have to put up or shut up.
> >

Regards,

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