Re: [ga] Sorry, ... we can't discuss this in public

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Agreed here.  However the ICANN BoD and staff as well as constituency
members can routinely ignore such remarks/comments as a means of not
recognizing the substance of same as being relevant or constructive.  Hence
leaving many ideas or concerns either not addressed properly or at all..

kidsearch wrote:

> Hi Danny. Since the mailing lists are public, (anyone can join) then pretty
> much anything said on a list is fair game for public domain. So reposting,
> etc. isn't something within ICANN control IMHO.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:09 AM
> Subject: [ga] Sorry, ... we can't discuss this in public
>
> > It was brought to my attention by a certain ICANN
> > Board member [????] that another ICANN Board member
> > [ALEX] was upset that the comments that yet another
> > ICANN Board member [VINT] exchanged with me on a
> > thread posted to the General Assembly discussion list
> > were reproduced by someone else [TROLL] in an
> > anonymous post to ICANNWatch.
> >
> > If there is a lesson to be learned from this, it is
> > that there are those within ICANN [THE BOARD] who have
> > a clear preference for private discussions over public
> > debate.  This is why the corridors, rather than the
> > assembly rooms, are of such importance at ICANN
> > meetings.
> >
> > ICANN doesn't want a venue for ongoing public
> > discussions -- that's one of the reasons why the ICANN
> > Board structurally eliminated the DNSO General
> > Assembly.  It's also one of the reasons why ICANN no
> > longer has an open Public Forum accessible from its
> > home page.  Sorry, ... no posting/criticism is
> > allowed.
> >
> > ICANN constituencies have learned this lesson well.
> > The new VeriSign/ICANN .com Registry Agreement has
> > been posted and yet you can't find any meaningful
> > public discussion on the issues anywhere within a
> > constituency discussion list (although there was a
> > request within the registrar list to extend the
> > comment period until the Vancouver meeting -- thereby
> > allowing registrar comments to be made in a venue
> > other than that of the public forum).
> >
> > An open public discussion might reveal "things" (and
> > we wouldn't want that, would we?).  This is why the
> > registries don't have a transparent publicly-archived
> > discussion list, and of course neither does the
> > Business Constituency.  It is also why ICANN doesn't
> > webcast its "informational" meetings with the
> > registrar constituency.
> >
> > ICANN believes that all discussions of public issues
> > have to be undertaken in secret.  This is why the
> > representatives of the "people", the government
> > delegations in the GAC, necessarily have to have
> > closed sessions.  Secrecy. Secrecy. Secrecy... ICANN
> > will settle for nothing less when it comes to
> > important public policy matters (which in their view
> > should never be discussed in public).
> >
> > Negotiations will be transacted in quiet little dark
> > corners... it's the ICANN way of doing things.
> >
> > The trouble-makers in this process are, of course,
> > those unrepresented members of the public that can't
> > afford to travel to the corridors of power, and that
> > have this horrible habit of wanting to discuss public
> > policy matters in public.
> >
> > ICANN has eliminated the At-Large Directors,
> > eliminated the DNSO GA, eliminated the Open Public
> > Forum, and yet the At-Large still persists in sending
> > public comments and in actually conversing with ICANN
> > Board members publicly -- when will they ever learn?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
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Regards,

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