Re: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Marsh" <marshm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'kidsearch'" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:26 PM
Subject: RE: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet


> Individuals may have the creativity, and even the "plan".  But they don't
do
> anything without bread on the table.
>
> The corporations provide the driving mechanism (money) for the
individuals.
> Even if you consider that it was US government agencies that did much of
the
> initial work on the Internet, it was largely due to cooperation with large
> corporations, educational institutions (under USG and corporate grants),
and
> the USG (which gets its money largely from taxes on large corporations).
>
> It's not that the corporations are *controlling* the innovation, they are
> *funding* it - fueling it.
>
> Where are the real technology innovators (individuals)?  They work for
> corporations, for the most part.
>
> Gene...
>
So if I used an example like oil companies. Nothing to do with the Internet,
but relevant as an example here. You would say they have funded and promoted
innovation in the area of alternative fuels?

My point is that corporations fund and promote technology only when they are
in a position to make the most out of it for their bottom line. If new
technology becomes available they cannot control or that will hurt their
bottom line, they buy up patents and make other manuevers to stifle it until
they are in a position to take advantage of it.

Are you saying that corporations don't do this?

It even applies to how ICANN has chosen to or chosen not to offer more TLDs.

Chris McElroy
http://www.kidsearchnetwork.org
http://thingsthatjustpissmeoff.blogspot.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> kidsearch
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:00 PM
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet
>
> Ok, Gene. Enlighten me.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Marsh" <marshm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'kidsearch'" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet
>
>
> > Wow, are you WAY off.
> >
> > Gene...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> > kidsearch
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:49 PM
> > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet
> >
> > Ok, here we are again.
> >
> >  "We want to make sure the private sector leads and the Internet
continues
> > to be a reservoir of great innovation, and that governments continue to
> > focus on enabling the growth of the Internet, and not of controlling its
> > use," Ambassador David A. Gross told The Washington Times in an
> interview."
> >
> > Private sector =  Corporations
> > Internet continues to be a reservoir of great innovation = as long as
the
> > corporations are able to control how and when the innovation happens.
> > governments continue to focus on enabling the growth of the Internet,
and
> > not of controlling its use = allowing the corporations to control it
> > instead.
> >
> > Funny how they don't realize it's individuals who innovate and corporate
> > entities who stifle innovation. If the Ambassador's statement was a true
> > reflection of what our government and the corporations who run it
thought,
> > it would be good, but as it is they don't want any innovation to occur
> that
> > they cannot control.
> >
> > Chris McElroy
> > http://www.kidsearchnetwork.org
> > http://thingsthatjustpissmeoff.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:06 PM
> > Subject: [ga] U.S. tells nations hands off Internet
> >
> >
> > > Well, it's pretty much a done deal, ICANN will remain the only game in
> > > town for the foreseeable future:
> > >
> > > "GENEVA -- The United States said at the outset of global talks on
> > > information technology yesterday that it will fight attempts to put
the
> > > United Nations or any international group in charge of the Internet.
> > >     "We want to make sure the private sector leads and the Internet
> > > continues to be a reservoir of great innovation, and that governments
> > > continue to focus on enabling the growth of the Internet, and not of
> > > controlling its use," Ambassador David A. Gross told The Washington
> > > Times in an interview. "
> > >
> > > The entire article can be read at:
> > >
> >
>
http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20050926-094916-3102r
> > >
> > > Frankly, I can't say I am disappointed by this announcement; not in
the
> > > least.
> > >
> > > Amiably,
> > >
> > > Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > >
> > >
> >
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