Re: [ga] Reaching Out

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mr./Her Haupman and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  I agree with Her Haupman in that want Richard/Wendy suggested is
in no way socialistic.  However "May be fair" and "Equal" is also of
some question and /or debate as well... A new or renewed debate
and discussion on introducing additional and/or new constituencies
is very problematic at best...

rbhauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:

>   I just love it when folks use a term like 'socialist' or 'communist'
> and don't know what those terms actually mean.  I see nothing
> socialist below.  It may be egalitarian, it may even be "fair" and
> "equal" but socialist?  No.
>
> Rick Hauptman
> CA Democratic Party
> Representing 7.1 Million CA Democrats
> (now that's egalitarian)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [ga] Reaching Out
>
>
> This is socialist leaning. Ok, but know what it is.
>
> e
>
> Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Wendy,
>
> This makes so much sense. I've been saying and thinking for years that
> the At Large should be expanded and enlivened by approaching leaders
> of teaching unions, and university/colleges, and religious
> organisations (like the Church of England here in UK), and libraries
> (for posting public info sheets about the At Large), and student
> organisations --- approach people with influence, convince them, and
> get them to endorse the At Large to their members.
>
> The At Large should be so much more than a dozen (largely techie
> types) who have been drawn together by ICANN (to be honest, for its
> own purposes and agenda).
>
> The whole ALAC and RALO initiative needs to be reviewed, and to be
> honest, it is the participants of ALAC itself who should (en masse)
> present ICANN with what they want to be and start introducing more
> self-determination, rather than definition by Denise, ICANN and the
> whole Reform Agenda (which, frankly, sought to limit damage after the
> expulsion of elected At Large Board members.
>
> I really support your suggestions in your post to the ALAC discussion
> list.
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
> www.atlarge.org
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
> http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00967.html
>
>
> For an addition to the agenda, can we confront the major question
> head-on: Is ALAC (and its ponderous ALS-RALO appendages) a meaningful,
> appropriate, or sufficient means for individual involvement in ICANN?
> After two years at it, I think the answer is no, but I think we're at
> least well placed to propose some better alternatives. What about
> jump-starting some other full-fledged constituencies to complement
> non-commercial: libraries, educators, registrants, privacy
> constituency? It's plain there are a lot of people who are burned out
> from trying to deal with ICANN, but many more might participate if
> given meaningful opportunities on par with commercial interests,
> rather than subordinate to them.
>
>
> --Wendy
> __________________________________________________
>

Regards,

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