Re: [ga] DNS implications - IETF Disbands eMail Authentication Standard Working Group

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  I don't know Eric. I have rarely seen a politician compromise on
anything
he strongly believes is a sound position on any issue.  I have never
seen a
lawyer concede or compromise a legal case he is presenting willingly
without
a judges decision to settle the matter.

  So it is often times true with IT engineers.  But I would argue to a
much
lessor degree than lawyers or politicians.  If your contention and
comparison
was valid, tell us how for instance standards like SMTP protocol came
into
being.  Tell us all how TLS became a standard.  Tell us all how SSL Vers
II
became a broadly excepted standard.  Tell us all how VPN has become a
standard protocol.

  No I would have to say that all this is all about which side of the
political
divide one engineer, just like any lawyer or politician sits and why...

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>  A room full of lawyers will argue all day long, but compromise when
> it is in their best interests. A room full of doctors will argue all
> night long but take action when the health of the patient is at risk.
> Politicians will argue both day and night but agree with the polls.
> But these engineers cannot argue and cannot compromise or take action
> or agree with anyone. Did anyone else here know a kid, that when he
> did not get his way he took his ball and went home.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,
>
> IETF Disbands eMail Authentication Standard Working Group
> (24/23/22 September 2004)
> The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has disbanded its MTA
> Authorization Records in DNS (MARID) working group, due largely to
> "fundamental disagreements" among members and the inability of the
> group
>
> to reach a consensus on any particular email authentication scheme.
> Recent problems included intellectual property and licensing concerns
> with Microsoft's proposed sender ID scheme.
> http://asia.cnet.com/news/software/printfri
> ndly.htm?AT=39194929-39037051t-39000001c
>
> http://security.itworld.com/4774/040923antispam/pfindex.html
> http://www.eweek.com/print_article/0,1761,a=135754,00.asp
>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
>
> "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
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>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827