Re: [ga] Re: NSI & Expired domain names -- violation of consensus deletions policy??

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  Your right again here of course, Eric.  And Twomey a la Telstra,
didn't
hold the Mayo either!  >;)

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    I think it is important to note this spamming element here. While a
> domain name may be registered to an individual for around $13 - $150 -
> $00 (cctld - gtld) I think we find that cutting out the highs and lows
> most are around $15 total cost. However a contact for a lead with the
> information on a registration is often sold to marketers for @$20 a
> piece.
> It does not take a mathematical genius to figure what side of the
> bread Twomeys sandwich is buttered on.
> So look at the switching of domain name registrants from this angle
> and you will see that changing the information for whatever reason
> means another lead generated and the production of revenue above that
> of the cost of registering. or in otherwords- Who cares about the use
> of a domain name? It is the registrants private information that is
> valuable.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> George and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/users,
>
> I will be interested in hearing how and in what fashion Versign will
> give a "Smakback" to Twomey... Given that Dr. Twomey's previous
> position to his tenure thus far with ICANN was with Telstra, one of
> the
> worst spam generating ISP's in the southern Pacific area, it seems
> rather
> obvious that any "Smackdown" he may consider or actually try to
> implement
> will not have the ethical or creditable impact he may believe it
> should or
> will have...
>
> George Kirikos wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It's ironic that NSI is doing this just as Paul Twomey has been
> > interviewed in the press a lot recently, trumpeting the Redemption
> > Grace Period as one of the successes of ICANN:
> >
> > http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040920/asp/business/story_3779403.asp
>
> >
> > "ICANN president and CEO Paul Twomey said, ?We have administered a
> > breather space for generic names like dot com, but not for the
> country
> > code. Most of the registrations are now for two years and, to use a
> > legal term, it is like a leasehold with redemption and a grace
> period.
> > If the name expires, you can actually redeem the name within a
> 30-day
> > grace period."
> >
> > NSI is simply slapping ICANN (and their domain registrants) in the
> face
> > with their brazen move. I'd love to be the fly on the wall when Dr.
> > Twomey makes the phone call to NSI on Monday, to lay the smackdown
> upon
> > them....
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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>
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827