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Re: [ga] Re: [CRIS Info] FW: Communications issues as important asenvironment,  says new Syracuse University Convergence Center report

  • To: RBHauptman@xxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [CRIS Info] FW: Communications issues as important asenvironment,  says new Syracuse University Convergence Center report
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:28:30 -0700
  • Cc: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <1C06D67A.05DA57DC.0B890EB2@aol.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

RB and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

  A brief and clear question for you RB.  How was Eric missing what point?

RBHauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:

> Clearly then, in the words of my mentor "Jeff Williams", you are missing my point about "clarity" and most of all about "brevity"
>
>  Time, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> >Briefly and Clearly you are mixing metaphors.
> >Please look up "Mothers milk of Invention" and Imagination.
> >Thomas Edison on Invention.
> >Abe Lincoln on Brevity.
> >Dalai Lama on Clarity.
> >The term is "on my mothers" knee" or "at my fathers' feet".
> >But of course your point is well taken, accuracy is far more important than length.
> >In that vein, Is it Maxwell the College in NJ, the College in London or the private international online school that you attended? Perhaps Just "Maxwell" is too brief.
> >I attended the American College and taught there, of course you could ask "in Puebla, Paris, London or Tokyo?" The answer would be brief - Yes.
> >Good Day
> >Eric
> >
> >
> >I have no idea what you are talking about.
> >
> >I learned at my mother's kneee (and perhaps at the Maxwell School of Public Affairs) that brevity and clarity are the mothers of all invention.... And sometimes the mark of sanity.
> >
> >Time, Hugh Dierker writes:
> >>Gentlemen,
> >>
> >>The perspective of "slamming" someone has drawn all three of you off the mark of a quite important point. (and yes it is true that, some people mistake being caustic and insensitive as honesty, a small defect.)
> >>The point is;
> >>Netiquette as it's mother etiquette should never be allowed to slow a public dialogue. A true man would never say something in private that he would not back up in public. The phrase "tyranny reins when good men remain silent" is specifically about the "good old boy - back room deals".  Voicing an opinion or position is each mans' right, fighting for that cause is each mans' Duty.
> >>I am not so young as to not remember the elections in the GA.  I swear the Corliss affair and the last "election"  by which the leader here had obviously agreed to cede the GA off the public lists were only accomplished by off the radar deals and private emails. Of course we should study the Domain Name Holders (or Owners) and fit together Joop and Sotiris and go figure the "private" emails that led to that hell. I still shudder at the back room deals Barton endured as Leader of the Last functioning WG-Review, and then he dissappeared.
> >>No, the only shame here is silence or apathy.
> >>Eric
> >>
> >>RBHauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:
> >>I think your wish for "netiquette" is going to fall on deaf ears. He says anything and everything he pleases.
> >>
> >>And a big Hello to Milton at Syracuse. I am a Maxwell grad.
> >>
> >>Rick Hauptman
> >>
> >>Time, Art McGee writes:
> >>
> >>>> One however should not discount Milton in any way
> >>>> automatically as he has expressed in good form and phrase,
> >>>> execellent ideas that should be given serious
> >>>> consideration.
> >>>
> >>>I wasn't discounting anyone. For the record, I was just
> >>>sending you a private note of praise which wasn't for public
> >>>comment. You might want to brush up on your netiquette
> >>>because you obviously didn't learn about it from your parents.
> >>>
> >>>I was making a more general observation about the way policy
> >>>wonks, academics, and techies tend to dominate most of the
> >>>discussions around communications and media, even though the
> >>>public is the only entity that gives all of this it's value.
> >>>None of this has any meaning outside the context of it's use
> >>>by people, and yet, people are often an afterthought when it
> >>>comes to the decisionmaking. That was my point. It wasn't
> >>>about anyone in particular, but a more general observation.
> >>>
> >>>
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Regards,

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