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Re: [ga] Five years ago...

  • To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Five years ago...
  • From: Eric Dierker <eric@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
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The question of bad faith is a given.
There is no common good being used here and every effort at user 
participation is blocked.
eric

> Karl, Amandeu and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
>stakeholders/users,
> 
>   What's been clear to many and increasing stakeholders/users and
> participants in this "Thing" called ICANN is that it was conceived in
> bad or questionable faith to begin with and has gotten worse
> as time has passed.  Jon was a really good fellow, but was
> far to prone to cronyism.  Steve Crocker and Vint Cerf are
> now far out of date, and as such cannot adequately be leaders
> in today's demands and evolution of the DNS, none the less
> the Internet as a whole because they are still of a "back when"
> mindset.  Such does not serve the stakeholders/users or
> consumers let alone ecommerce.
> 
>   Our [INEGroup's] position has basically been two fold.
> The ICANN BoD must be an elected BOD by any and all
> of the interested parties or stakeholders/users, or a
> new contract from DOC/NTIA for the ICANN
> functions must be let that is inclusive of any and
> All interested parties or stakeholders/users as a privatized
> but overseen organization by the USG and/or an international
> body other than the UN.
> 
> So Amadue is right in his full remarks, that ICANN has done
> a poor job for 5+ years now and is seemingly getting worse,
> instead of better.
> 
> Karl Auerbach wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Amadeu Abril i Abril wrote:
>>
>> > .... For years, ICANN's real cultural diversity, as for who really
>> > counted, ranged from Harvard to UCLA, more or less ;-))
>>
>> More rather than less:
>>
>> It is not widely known but Vint Cerf, Jon Postel, Steve Crocker, and
>> myself all went to the same high school (Van Nuys High) in the San
>> Fernando Valley section of Los Angeles.  And I believe that we all
>> went to UCLA - in fact I think most of us were in the same building
>> (Boelter Hall) at UCLA.  I'm not sure of the degree to which our times
>> at these places overlapped.
>>
>>                 --karl--
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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