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Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming

  • To: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx, "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:25:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Karl and all,

  It's been clear for years now that ICANN has little concern
for registrants or users as they do not directly pay $$ to
ICANN coffers.  So we can expect foot dragging on DoA for some
time from ICANN officials.  I agree that the FTC should be looking 
into this much more closely as you indicate.  


-----Original Message-----
>From: Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 18, 2010 7:41 PM
>To: "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming
>
>
>
>Yes there are some of us still here.
>
>I also have received a lot of those DoA solicitations.
>
>It is quite clear that they are data minining the whois database to get 
>their information.
>
>If they are an accredited registrar it is not clear that violates their 
>ICANN contract.
>
>But even if it does ICANN has refused to give internet users a thing 
>called "third party beneficiary rights" - without those we have no power 
>to require ICANN to enforce the terms of its contracts because, simply, 
>we are not a party to those contracts.
>
>It is a slap in the fact of the community of internet users for ICANN to 
>refuse third party beneficiary status.  ICANN claims that they do so in 
>order to maintain uniformity of resolutions to contract matters.
>
>But that argument would have force only if ICANN actually enforced its 
>agreements so that it had something to be uniform about.
>
>Getting back to DoA - they are so much a scam that I am surprised that 
>the FTC has not gone after them.  They charge 3x, 4x, or more what other 
>registrars do.  (And I'm not sure that they even provide anything 
>equivalent to the maintenance tools that real registrars provide.)
>
>I've noticed over the years that they keep adding more disclaimers to 
>their small, and it is very small, print.  I suspect that they are 
>trying to dance around the enforcement agencies.
>
>ICANN should initiating an inquiry, and if necessary, pull their 
>accreditation and perhaps initiate a civil action or a criminal 
>complaint if the facts suggest that that those actions are warranted.
>
>ICANN exists to protect domain name stability for our benefit.  They 
>don't do it in the technical arena, and as DoA indicates they don't do 
>much on the business practice side that ICANN has chosen for its work.
>
>       --karl--
>
Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
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