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Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming
- To: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx, "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:25:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Karl and all,
It's been clear for years now that ICANN has little concern
for registrants or users as they do not directly pay $$ to
ICANN coffers. So we can expect foot dragging on DoA for some
time from ICANN officials. I agree that the FTC should be looking
into this much more closely as you indicate.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Oct 18, 2010 7:41 PM
>To: "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ga] Domain Registry of America - Domain slamming
>
>
>
>Yes there are some of us still here.
>
>I also have received a lot of those DoA solicitations.
>
>It is quite clear that they are data minining the whois database to get
>their information.
>
>If they are an accredited registrar it is not clear that violates their
>ICANN contract.
>
>But even if it does ICANN has refused to give internet users a thing
>called "third party beneficiary rights" - without those we have no power
>to require ICANN to enforce the terms of its contracts because, simply,
>we are not a party to those contracts.
>
>It is a slap in the fact of the community of internet users for ICANN to
>refuse third party beneficiary status. ICANN claims that they do so in
>order to maintain uniformity of resolutions to contract matters.
>
>But that argument would have force only if ICANN actually enforced its
>agreements so that it had something to be uniform about.
>
>Getting back to DoA - they are so much a scam that I am surprised that
>the FTC has not gone after them. They charge 3x, 4x, or more what other
>registrars do. (And I'm not sure that they even provide anything
>equivalent to the maintenance tools that real registrars provide.)
>
>I've noticed over the years that they keep adding more disclaimers to
>their small, and it is very small, print. I suspect that they are
>trying to dance around the enforcement agencies.
>
>ICANN should initiating an inquiry, and if necessary, pull their
>accreditation and perhaps initiate a civil action or a criminal
>complaint if the facts suggest that that those actions are warranted.
>
>ICANN exists to protect domain name stability for our benefit. They
>don't do it in the technical arena, and as DoA indicates they don't do
>much on the business practice side that ICANN has chosen for its work.
>
> --karl--
>
Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
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