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Re: [ga] Registrants

To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:21:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; Seems we have come full circle yet again vis a vis the defunct 
IDNO.&nbsp; </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; This new effort of which seemingly Danny and Joop are colaborating on 
will</P>
<P>need some seed funding and than a workable and sustainable funding model.</P>
<P>Memebers may be willing to provide some/most of the funding via a 
membership</P>
<P>fee, but many will be less than willing to pay very much.&nbsp; This would 
than mean</P>
<P>that alternative funding sources will need to be indentified and sought for 
needed</P>
<P>funding for perhaps years to come.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; No offense to Danny of Joop, but I am doubtful that either of them 
have the</P>
<P>ability to provide for any sort of appropriate or necessary funding.&nbsp; I 
hope I</P>
<P>am mistaken.<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker 
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Nov 9, 2009 8:32 AM <BR>To: Andy Gardner 
<ANDY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Joop 
Teernstra <TERASTRA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Thank you Joop,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have a few questions that may lead to some solutions.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Do you have a funding model?&nbsp; Have you approached any groups that 
have money to help fund your endeavor?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Are registrants willing to pay any amount for membership?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Has anyone suggested the Idea that the registrant group should be 
organized, not just for ICANN but as a professional organization to help do 
wild and crazy things like: share information, establish best practices, 
educate, promote?<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 11/8/09, Joop Teernstra 
<I>&lt;terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Joop Teernstra 
&lt;terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants<BR>To: "Andy 
Gardner" &lt;andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Accountability Headquarters" 
&lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:27 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Gardner" 
&lt;<A href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
ymailto="mailto:andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>To: 
"Accountability Headquarters" &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
ymailto="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: Sunday, 
November 08, 2009 4:05 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Registrants<BR><BR><BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Transparency? Personal power posturing?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The 
bulk of ICANN funding comes from Registrants.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We pay for the 
show, then we're expected to pay AGAIN by have to "self- organise".<BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; We tried that once and got the bum's rush.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It's time 
for ICANN to acknowledge who pays all the bills, recognise they've been left 
out of the process for years, and do all the work to get them in the process 
where they should have rightfully been from&nbsp; day one.<BR>&gt; 
<BR><BR>That's right.<BR>What I meant with my parallel to "the peace process" 
is that the dispossessed and disenfranchised are not offered enough to make it 
remotely interesting for them (or their volunteer representatives) to come to 
the table.<BR><BR>Joop 
<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. 
Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders 
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