Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service-LionMail(tm) has been launched

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

John and all,

  Unfortunately your mail servers are not configured in DNS
properly, but will as currently configured, accomplish the
goal you indicate below effectively.  However that violates
IETF standards, which is why DNSSTUFF.COM properly
indicated clearly such.  Additionally DNSSTUFF.COM is
the official tool for DNS related considerations by the FTC,
DHS, NSA, FBI, and the Whitehouse.  As such your dislike
is not really relevant as the Cybersecurity czar soon to be
appointed and legislation requiring same by law, seems to
completely deflate your arguments accordingly.  Further
I have to say as fo myself, ICANN's SSAC, the IETF,
the ITU, and other standards bodies have too frequently shown
that they cannot or will not work in concert with each other and
are too often too far behind the security and privacy need curve.

  Although I share your dislike and displeasure with UCE/SPAM,
I cannot agree on a professional level that the method you are
seemingly using to accomplish it's mitigation or elimination as
a reasonable one and is technically not a excepted or ethical
practice.  Ergo we will be blocking your Domain, Lion-Mail.net
and all assiciate IP addresses accrodingly until or unless such
a practice is vacated and properly corrected accordingly.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> Dear John, I got this gal who lives right off Pennsylvania ave in DC.
  She kind of is in the thick of things there. She has worked some
  sticky pol. campaigns.. Bright as hell. Picked up a dual major BS in
  poly sci and pr, got a fancy Masters in PR and international law or
  something, all of it Cum laudee dah.. Part of the Amer. Uni system
  there. She has a knack for making people like who they want to hate.
  Stays in the background, loves a darkhorse. Point is. She don't need
  you but you need her. Your style of public relations can only lead to
  an abysmal martyrdom. I would not even wager on your chance in hell of
  making your program work with your condescending, everyone else is an
  idiot attitude. Any further advice will cost ya. But I reckon your too
  stubborn to ask for it.

  --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  wrote:

       From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real
       E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
       To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:53 PM


       Nope - Lion-Mail.net is configured exactly as its supposed to be. The 
ignorant
       tool
       at dnsstuff.com doesn't know what its talking about.

       Of course there are no MX records for Lion-Mail.net - you aren't supposed
       to send
       mail TO the Lion-Mail.net domain - E-Mail addresses for Lion-Mail are in 
the
       ..LION TLD. www.lion-mail.net is only a crutch portal for people who 
still
       haven't configured their machines to use an INS resolver.

       As for SPAM, LionMail has a zero tolerance for spammers and terminates 
accounts
       of spammers
       immediatly. We have outbound as well as inbound spam filters.

       ----- Original Message -----
       From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>; "ICANN
       Policy staff" <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN SSAC"
       <ssac@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN
       SSAC Dave Piscitello" <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx>; "Steve
       Crocker" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann legal"
       <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Levins"
       <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>; "DHS info" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
       "FTC IP marketplace comments" <IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>;
       "FTC OIG's office" <OIG@xxxxxxx>
       Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:01 AM
       Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail 
Service
       -LionMail(tm) has been launched

       >
       > Stephane and all,
       >
       >  The problem with Gmail is that it is a spam perliforator
       > extrodinair.  I suspect so is lion-mail.net.
       > I do see that lion-mail.net is a DNS disaster. See:
       >
       
http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=lion-mail.net
       >
       > and
       >
       
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=lion-mail.net&token=12504cd81a964e092f54639635bf8019
       >
       >
       >
       > So yes Stephane, your point below is well taken!  >:)
       > Perhaps ICANN SSAC can find the initiative and garner
       > the effort to see to it that lion-mail.net get's it's act
       > together properly.  As usual for me, I am not holding
       > my breath in anticipation of such.
       >
       > That said, now wouldn't it be nice if nic.fr would be
       > so kind and considerate to the world if it would get
       > it's act together?  A novel idea I'm sure, and perhaps
       > even to hope so is a near miracle.  But I have faith.  >:)
       > See:
       >
       
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nic.fr&token=13e078b6394942dd2a84269300c3f019
       >
       > Yet I do see that some progress has been made sense I last checked.
       > However not quite there yet, eh?  >:)  Could it be that nic.fr is
       > waiting
       > for it's "Stimulus" check so as to be able to afford to make
       the obvious
       >
       > minor corrections?  >:/
       > Vive la France or let them eat cake?
       >
       > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
       >
       >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:19:15PM -0500,
       >>  John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
       >>  a message of 54 lines which said:
       >>
       >> > Check it out at http://lion-mail.net
       >>
       >> > LionMail is a low cost web based e-mail service
       >>
       >> Low-cost at $1/month while we have Gmail for free?
       >>
       >> But the best thing is the FAQ:
       >>
       >> > Most spammers use systems that do not know about the INS and
       >> > therefore they will not be able to reach you.
       >>
       >> The dummy TLDs are not reachable therefore you will receive less
       >> spam. That's something I never thought about :-)
       >
       > Regards,
       >
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>
Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827