Re: [ga] All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use Linux, By Fiat

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all,

  Bully!  Yet exposing any user with a race to the bottom of technically

deficient and security hole ridden browser technology at the moment
is a lunitic decision and practice.  As I have said, we have made the
necessary corrective/preventative adjustments accordingly.  And
unless or until the Vietnamese government adjusts or corrects for
the security risk it is imposing on their trading partners or other
Internet users, those corrective/preventative adjustments shall remain
in place...

  Disruptive technical business practices or obvious and documented
high technical security risk software as a governmental standard that
highly exposes those trading partners or unwitting users to IDtheft,
malware, adware, and spyware is not now, nor has ever been an
exceptable practice in the US by any of its trading partners and is
a direct violation of GATT.  The decision in this instance that the
Viatnamese Government has made IS directly a violation of those
trading agreements, and against existing good IT security practice
and law.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> Hugo, Karl & Jeff, There is not, never has been and most likely never
  will be a dictatorship in Vietnam. Independence, Freedom and Happiness
  is more a definition of the people than a motto. The cities of HCMC
  and Hanoi have more free enterprise per square inch than a mile of
  most of California. Centrally speaking they are a supply and command
  economy, much like the direction the U.S. is clearly headed with
  Obama. Not a good or bad assessment just very frank. Creating a
  scenario where a government is reliant on a single source for any
  essential goods or services is lunacy. VNNIC is a group of highly
  motivated, very intelligent and proudly patriotic professionals. The
  cool thing about them is that they don't have to do anything just for
  PR sake. They do what is a considered consensus as to what is best for
  Vietnam. My work with them, as is my want, was in their transitional
  and opening up phase of the Internet. At that time we worked very hard
  to maintain the internet of .VN as a national resource for the
  people.  If one is to question the good intentions of Viet Nam as to
  this move, they do not see this announcement in proper light. They are
  basically marketing an effective bid opening process to get the work
  done. They are clearly stating "We will have the best of breed and if
  you want in, bring it on".. I already have inquiries as to how
  companies might work with Viet Nam to make their stated goals a
  reality. I say "Bully for Independence, Freedom, Happiness and Pride."

  --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Hugo Monteiro <hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

       From: Hugo Monteiro <hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: Re: [ga] All of Vietnam's Government Computers To
       Use Linux, By Fiat
       To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Cc: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ICANN SSAC" <ssac@xxxxxxxxx>,
       "Nguyen Thu Hue" <huenguyen@xxxxxxxxx>, "GAC Rep"
       <ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep"
       <aheineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 2:31 AM


       Hello Jeffrey,

       Not long ago it was Google's Chrome fault that people got their credit
       cards hijacked. Now it's Firefox that sucks. I'd like to ask you advise

       on which secure browser platform to use.

       Has for neutrality, let me just say that a government should be able to
       decide which technological solutions their offices and services use,
       without worrying about being called dictatorial. They can be good or bad
       decisions on a numerous level of aspects but what you call dictatorship
       some people just refer as management.

       Regards,

       Hugo Monteiro.

       Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
       > All,
       >
       >   How Orwellion!  So much for Net Nutrality here.  >:(  Given
       > the recent security holes in Firefox as well, it seems that such
       > a dictatorial decision by the Ministry of Information and
       > Communication in Vietnam is a foolish one as well.  Perhaps
       > Eric can pursuade them to rethink this decision lest Vietnam
       > wishes to see a stark reduction in ecommerce and find themselves
       > de-routed or filtered in accordance with the recent FCC
       > ruling, accordingly...
       >
       > See:
       > The Vietnamese Ministry of Information and Communications has issued
       > an administrative ruling
       > http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2009/01/822425/
       > increasing the use of Free Open Source Software products at state
       > agencies, increasing the software's use both in the back office and on
       > the desktop.
       > According to the new rule, 100% of government servers must run Linux by
       > June 30, 2009, and 70% of agencies must use OpenOffice.org, Mozilla
       > Firefox, and Mozilla Thunderbird by the end of 2009. The regulation 
also
       >
       > sets benchmarks for training and proficiency in the software. Vietnam
       > has a population of 86 million, 4 million larger than that of Germany,
       > and is one of
       > the world's fastest-growing economies.
       >
       > Regards,
       >
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827