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RE: [ga] List Rules - Some Ideas
- To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [ga] List Rules - Some Ideas
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 05:06:56 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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<P>Dominik and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Of course I totally agree with Dominik here. But than again Mr.
Dierker</P>
<P>doesn't and hasn't for some time now. And again, in that he
seemingly</P>
<P>has captured the GA forum to an extent, he and he alone with or</P>
<P>without the will or consensus of the GA members will decide. I can</P>
<P>only guess that such is some odd form of Selective Censorship or</P>
<P>some other draconian concept that I certainly am not aware of and</P>
<P>do not wish to become familier with.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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<DOMINIK.FILIPP@xxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Apr 2, 2008 12:34 AM <BR>To:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=896333415-01042008><FONT size=2>Hi
Debbie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=896333415-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=896333415-01042008><FONT size=2>I,
personally, do not see a problem with abandoning the post limit.
I understand that the GA has some specifics as regards natural
self-regulation of its members that should perhaps be responsively
moderated. But in case of real participation of our members on issues in a more
organized way this might be necessary. Then I see a problem with
distinguishing between relevant and non-relevant content. I think in most cases
a warning should suffice but in general we could be able to put
up with non-relevant or numerous posts as long as they are
not occurring too often or are not flooding the space. Anyway,
we can report it at any time it becomes apparent.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=896333415-01042008><FONT
size=2>Dominik</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Debbie
Garside<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ga] List Rules - Some
Ideas<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2>Hi Dominik</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>I have to
say, this (the GA) is the first forum I have ever known to impose a limit
on postings and I, personally, would much rather everyone had the
opportunity of free speech whenever they desire it. However, if you look
back in the archives you will see that there are a few people who find it
necessary to go over the '5 posts a day' limit on a regular basis (I have
in the past posted over the limit myself - prior to the list rules being
adopted of course). In reviewing these mails I am not sure that they are
always terribly constructive or conducive to a professional list
being taken seriously by those we would hope to inform, impress
and advise. Therefore, I feel that an increase in wholesale posting
limits at this time may detract from any work we wish to conduct rather than
enhance it. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>That said,
in the light of the important discussions currently being held, if a few
members were to propose the change from limited to no limit or even double
limit on postings pertaining to a distinct subject line I would most
likely support it - although members should be warned that wanton off topic or
inflammatory emails would still incur sanctions as per our rules.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>Most people
can manage to stop themselves clicking the send and receive button 20 times a
day but there are those who cannot and this is why we need rules - these few
people spoil it for the majority but, nevertheless, deserve the right of free
speech; albeit somewhat limited in quantity.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>I hope
this answers your question. Please feel free to formulate a proposal
along these lines in order that members may have an opportunity to voice their
opinions on whether the current discussions necessitate an increase in posting
levels.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>Best
wishes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>Debbie
Garside</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=606224814-01042008><FONT size=2>List
Monitor</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dominik
Filipp<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 April 2008 13:29<BR><B>To:</B> Jeffrey A. Williams;
Hugh Dierker; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx;
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ga] List Rules - Some
Ideas<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT size=2>Well, I
understand the existing limit might be an obstacle once we decide to work
on issues intensively.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT size=2>Eric,
Debbie, would it be a problem to increase the daily post limit or to eliminate
it altogether when we reach a consensus on this
here?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
size=2>Dominik</FONT></SPAN></DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeffrey A.
Williams<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ga]
List Rules - Some Ideas<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Dominik and all,</P>
<P>I have no objections to your suggestions, only concerns as to with
extremely<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>limited posting limits, how such can be achieved
with any reasonable sense<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>of accuracy or completeness. Unless or until
that limiting censorship factor<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>is changed within the GA, most, if not all,
meaningful and comprehensive<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>work is not feasable. However as I have long
ago now said, I believe that<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>this is what Debbie and Mr. Dierker intended, which
hamstrings the GA<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>and as such, relegates it to near obscurity or
irrelevance.<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>Good public discourse, like any other form of person
to person or<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>person to public communication is never censored in
such a way,<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>not even C-Span does such. But the GA [ Eric
and Debbie] does! >:(</P>
<P>Thankfully none of our mailing lists have such draconian nonsensical<SPAN
class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>Censorship provisions, nor did the FCC impose such
on P2P traffic when<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>the RIAA's complaint regarding such was
strongly and unanomously denied.<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>But the GA does! >:( Frankly
such censorship reminds me of "Extrodinary<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>Rendition", you may not know what that
is Dominik, but Mr. Dierker surely<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>does.</P>
<P>So in summation and seemingly as usual, any of our members that<SPAN
class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>engage in
Tasting activities, warehousing of domain Names, or Domain<SPAN
class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>Name
speculation on a large scale, shall have their membership revoked<SPAN
class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>until
they have renounced to ever engage in those activities via a signed<SPAN
class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>and
notarized affidavit. Same is true for Censorship [ other than self
censorship],<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>infringing in any way of personal privacy, engaging
in the trafficing of child<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>pornography on the Internet or elsewhere, engaging
in cybersquatting, typosquatting,<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>phishing, IP address hijacking or
other<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>defined forms of same, and/or any other forms
of Internet scams. Further, any or our members that fail to report such
activities<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2> </FONT></SPAN>to a proper legal authority shall also have
their membership revoked or temporary<SPAN class=316541612-01042008><FONT
face=Geneva size=2> </FONT></SPAN>suspended pending further review.</P>
<P>I personally have a 0 ZERO tolorence policy for nonsense, and always
have.<SPAN class=316541612-01042008> </SPAN>"Collective or selective
censorship in any of it's ugly forms IS nonsense!"</P>
<P>Chief Justice US Supreme court, Jon Jay 1791</P>
<P>Regards,</P>
<P>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders
strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>
Abraham Lincoln</P>
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often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt</P>
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B;<BR>liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e.,
whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d
169 [2d Cir.
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href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>My Phone:
214-244-4827<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Dominik Filipp
<DOMINIK.FILIPP@xxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Apr 1, 2008 2:15 AM <BR>To: "Jeffrey A.
Williams" <JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Danny Younger <DANNYYOUNGER@xxxxxxxxx>,
Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx>, debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc:
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: RE: [ga] List Rules - Some Ideas
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT face=Geneva
size=2>Jeff and all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>I
understand your point here. Four votes for the motion gained so far
can hardly be considered a GA support. But the motion is based on the public
voice expressing its desire to eliminate AGP as demonstrated
in the last GNSO survey and not on a majority of GA votes;
so the power and the legitimacy of the motion is derived from the
results of official survey. For me the GA, in its current status, is
still a mailing list with all known limitations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>However, it
is a nice idea to get the GA community more operable. Regardless of whether the
results will be accepted by the staff or not. Simply to find out whether
the GA is a group of people not only bringing interesting and/or
valuable thoughts and ideas, but also a body capable of acting
accordingly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>Our last
attempt to build this up failed. Maybe we could give it another
chance and start with the domain tasting issue. I think, however, this motion
cannot be enforced by just establishing some organizational rules but it should
be a natural process of gradual acceptation of the potential power
of group of people with the same or similar attitudes and goals. That is,
a process accepted by the GA members themselves. I have no idea whether such a
support exists currently, and I do not insist on it. I am all for it but cannot
speak for anyone else.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>I,
therefore, would continue working on domain tasting here. Everyone interested
in it can join and work together. I have some ideas how to improve the work;
e.g. I would like to use a special notation in subject clearly distinguishing
issue-oriented contributions from other posts; some
examples</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2>GA_ISSUE_0001: DOMAIN TASTING | Elimination of AGP - Pros And
Cons Report</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><SPAN
class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><SPAN
class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>GA_ISSUE_0001: DOMAIN TASTING |
Voting - Vote on Draft Report Ver.
1.1</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><SPAN
class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>GA_ISSUE_0001: DOMAIN TASTING - Final
Report Ver. 1.1</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>or more
generally</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2>GA_ISSUE_<code>: <ISSUE_TITLE> [| <Category> [|
<SubCategory>]... [- <Description>]]</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>where pipe
stands for category/subcategory delimiter and square
brackets are optional meta-terms (as usual).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2>Obviously, every opened issue should be 'owned' by a leading
moderator who defines the subject titles.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT size=2>This could
help try out the mechanism for the current ongoing issue and we'll see how
this might be working further. The details can be discussed later or
refined during real work on issues. I, personally, would not like to be
elaborating on this too much.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2>Any ideas or objections?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=373584207-01042008><FONT
size=2>Dominik</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeffrey A.
Williams<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ga] List Rules<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Mr. Dierker and all,</P>
<P> My position on the questionably ligitimate "List Rules" is well known
and</P>
<P>remains unchanged for the reasons I have already stated clearly and</P>
<P>emphatically. BTW, Mr. Dierker I trimmed you redundant CC's in
accordance</P>
<P>with the questionably ligitimate "List Rules". Please practice what</P>
<P>you preach, if you would be so kind.</P>
<P><FONT face=Geneva size=2></FONT> </P>
<P> It seems very clear that Dominik's motion is resoundingly carried
by</P>
<P>the majority of the actively participating GA members. However as</P>
<P>the GA does not have any formal voting process that it should have</P>
<P>there will always be a question as to weather or not Dominiks motion</P>
<P>is the will of the GA members. Here inlies, and has always been the</P>
<P>GA's biggest detrament and partly why as Ross indicated, the GA is</P>
<P>unfortunately largely discounted if not ignored. A sad commentary
indeed.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Mar 31, 2008 11:17 AM <BR>To:
debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules
<BR><BR>
<DIV>The list has run along very smoothly for several months. The main reason
is voluntary compliance with the rules. Once this concept breaks down so does
the list. We are not talking about individual one time lapses. For constant
repeat violations we must stand strong and enforce the rules.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Geneva size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>We are at a point for the first time in months, that the list is
coalescing into the form of producing a statement/motion. The AGP issue seems
to have come to a head and more formal resolution procedures may be
appropriate. I believe it is at a motion stage with 4 seconds. If the desire is
to move forward in a constructive effective matter, we should hear that from
the members.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Geneva size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Eric<BR><BR><B><I>Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><FONT face=Geneva size=2></FONT><BR>Please note
that the list rules state no more than 5 postings within 24<BR>hours.<BR><BR>A
couple of people on this list seem to be going over the limit on a
regular<BR>basis.<BR><BR>This is a final friendly warning. Anyone going over
the quota in future<BR>will be suspended from the list for a minimum of 4 weeks
according to our<BR>list rules.<BR><BR>There are a number of contentious issues
currently being discussed at the<BR>moment and, as has already been voiced, I
would like to see input from a<BR>variety of members rather than just the same
few.<BR><BR>Best regards<BR><BR><BR>Debbie Garside<BR>List
Monitor<BR><BR>http://www.geolang.com<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<P>
<P>Regards,</P>
<P>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders
strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>
Abraham Lincoln</P>
<P>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is<BR>very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt</P>
<P>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden,
B;<BR>liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e.,
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