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RE: Re[2]: [ga] domain tastinmg comments
- To: Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>, Karl Peters - TLDA <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Shane Kinsch <shane.kinsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: Re[2]: [ga] domain tastinmg comments
- From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:49:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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<P>Karl and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> I agree with your opinion on this in your remarks below, as well</P>
<P>as I agree with your sentiments and/or means/tone of expression</P>
<P>of same. I think maybe Dominik misunderstood my earlier remarks</P>
<P>regarding to said expression/tone. Being nice is a good thing until</P>
<P>being nice is not effective and it is obvious that it is not. At that
point,</P>
<P>by whomever recognizes such, more harsh expression is necessary</P>
<P>or otherwise advisable. Unethical and lack of fairness is never</P>
<P>exceptable, and never should be by anyone. To except such is</P>
<P>paramount to being intimidated or brow beat. I have NEVER stood</P>
<P>for allow that, and NEVER will...</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Anyway both you are Dominik as well as Chris made very good</P>
<P>points, and I personally agree with all of them accordingly thus
far...<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Dominik Filipp
<DOMINIK.FILIPP@xxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Mar 26, 2008 3:23 AM <BR>To: Karl Peters -
TLDA <TLDA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Shane Kinsch
<SHANE.KINSCH@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: RE:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=083235409-26032008>Karl,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=083235409-26032008></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=083235409-26032008>Your introducing question is the point.
Some or more influential individuals within the ICANN structures are
suffering from lack of ethical and fair principles, and thanks to the existing
organizational structure, are successfully pursuing their private
interests not willing or capable of accepting the wider perspective of ICANN
mission. Though understandable in daily businesses, this is not acceptable
in an international organization claiming fair and balanced stance towards
multi-user and heterogeneous Internet society when viewed from the perspective
of ICANN mission as declared in its Core Values.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=083235409-26032008></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=083235409-26032008>Dominik</SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Karl Peters -
TLDA<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Shane Kinsch<BR><B>Cc:</B>
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re[2]: [ga] domain tastinmg
comments<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7>> In general, you pay a fine of $2,851,200 just to
sample 18,000,000<SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>domain names in a year and keep
only the ones that barely pay for<SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>themselves. Thats not
good business sense anyway you look at it. <SPAN
class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>I would estimate a much higher
drop rate such as 90+%.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7>> </SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7>> If ICANN would enact a penalty as such, that anything
over a nominal<SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>percentage is charged
$0.20/drop would take care of this and everyone<SPAN
class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>else.<SPAN
class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN>The
legit registrars are happy and the tasters/kiters will go away.<SPAN
class=083235409-26032008><FONT color=#000000
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=rvts7><SPAN class=rvts7>><SPAN class=083235409-26032008><FONT
color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN>Its not feasible for them to
keep operating.</SPAN></P>
<DIV><SPAN class=rvts8></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=rvts8> </DIV></SPAN>
<P><SPAN class=rvts8>So you want to talk about numbers and feasibility instead
of right and wrong? OK...</SPAN></P>
<P> Let's say a scammer picks up 500 domains under
this tasting policy and sends out solicitations as we have described and
discussed to sell them at $295 per domain for people to "complete" their
registrations of the major TLDs' domains of their name. </P>
<P> Let's say that of these five hundred names that
are tied up and unavailable for consumers for a week (perhaps the one time they
will try for that name for some time to come, if they are not sufficiently
skeptical and aware of the effects of tasting), they successfully sell 2 of
them, but for less than advertised. </P>
<P> Let's say they settle for $500.00 for the two
registrations they sell and then return the other 498 domains at $0.20 each
penalty, or $99.60. This scammer just made a profit of $400.40 for one week of
free e-mails based on improper marketing of unregistered domains and I still
have no example of any corporation who has used this program as it was
intended.</P>
<P><BR></P>
<P>-Karl E. Peters</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over
277k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest
freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the
performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" -
Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and
the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></P></ZZZBODY></ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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