Re: [ga] ICANN Board Recommends Action on Domain Tasting

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Michael and all,

  I and our members recognize that there is disagreement in this
solution and recognize the effort announce by Google which is laudable.
However such disagreement has little to do with the fact that Tasting
exists today, has been occurring in an ever increasing frequency, and
the future yet known, will tell the effect, if any significant, the ICANN
Bod has taken, will have on curbing, but will never eliminate, Domain
Name Tasting which was in effect the result of questionable policy
decisions regarding RAA contracts with Registries and Registrars.

  As a number of our members are also members of ICA, as you
know Michael, they have expressed their displeasure and significant
doubts as to the ICANN Bod's decision.  We preferred a much
stronger and long lasting approach which included the dis-accreditation
of Registrars and Registries for failing to take effective, cost free action,
and punished registrants whom are engaging in Domain name Tasting
dis-allowing them to register ANY Domain names for a period of time
to be no less than one year and not to exceed 3 years as well as
recommend to governments to seek legislation that would allow of
criminal prosecution in engaging in Domain Name Tasting/Front running.

  Therefore it is unfortunate that YOU Michael have expressed for
all ICA members your disagreement with our position, without the
full consideration and agreement of the ICA members.  We hope,
that in the near future when a new administration has been elected
in the United States, specific pressure can be brought to bare to
correct this far less than long term effective ICANN Bod decision,
recognizing fully that ICANN is yet again seeking to be cut loose
from the DOC/NTIA oversight.

Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Michael Collins wrote:

> I disagree. This action by the board along with Google's recent announcement
> to stop funding for tasting spells an end to tasting as we know it. I
> applaud the ICANN Board for taking quick action to stop this abusive
> practice. If there is some clean-up work necessary to address any continued
> abuse, it can be handled through PDP that is already in the works.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael Collins
> Internet Commerce Association
> +1. 202 657 4570
> +1. 407 242 9009 mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:37 AM
> To: GNSO.SECRETARIAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; twomey@xxxxxxxxx; Peter Dengate Thrush
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board Recommends Action on Domain Tasting
>
> Glen and all,
>
>   Well not unexpected, but a seriously bad and ineffective move
> and/or decision by the Board as the future will eventually
> show.  These "Fees" will only be charged back to ligitimate
> registrants as a cost of doing bad business by registrars and
> registries and have little long term impact on Tasting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
> div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> My Phone: 214-244-4827
>
> "GNSO.SECRETARIAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" wrote:
>
> > [To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org]
> > [To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org; announce[at]gnso.icann.org]
> > [To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org]
> >
> > http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-29jan08.htm
> > ICANN Board Recommends Action on Domain Tasting
> >
> > Suggested fee change would effectively eliminate tasting
> >
> > 29 January 2008
> >
> > MARINA DEL REY, Calif.: The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
> > Numbers is looking to effectively end domain tasting with a proposal to
> > start charging the annual ICANN fee on registrar domain registrations.
> >
> > Domain tasting is the use of the Add Grace Period to test the
> > profitability of a domain name registration. The AGP is a five-day
> > period following the initial registration of a domain name when the
> > registration may be deleted and a credit can be issued to a registrar.
> >
> > "Domain tasting has been an issue for the Internet community and ICANN
> > is offering this proposal as a way to stop tasting," said Dr Paul
> > Twomey, ICANN's President and CEO. "Charging the ICANN fee as soon as a
> > domain name is registered would close the loophole used by tasters to
> > test a domain name's profitability for free."
> >
> > AGP was originally introduced by registries so registrars could avoid
> > costs if a domain name was mistyped or misspelled during the
> > registration process. It is part of the .com, .net, .org, .info, ..name,
> > .pro, and .biz registry contracts.
> >
> > Tasting has been a serious challenge for the Internet community and has
> > grown exponentially since 2004. In January 2007 the top 10 domain
> > tasters accounted for 95% of all deleted .com and .net domain names - or
> > 45,450,897 domain names out of 47,824,131 total deletes.
> >
> > The proposal will be part of the ICANN budget process for the fiscal
> > year starting 1 July 2008. The early draft version of that budget will
> > be released for and discussed at ICANN's New Delhi meeting later this
> > month. After public discussions of this proposal and other budget
> > issues, the proposed budget will be released for addition discussions by
> > 17 May 2008 and be voted on at the board meeting to be held during the
> > ICANN meeting in Paris in June. ICANN accredited registrars representing
> > two-thirds of fees collected will be asked to approve the proposal.
> >
> > "This idea came from the ICANN community and we think it is a viable
> > solution the Internet community has been seeking," Dr Twomey added.
> > --
> > Glen de Saint Géry
> > GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
> > gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
> > http://gnso.icann.org
>
>