RE: [ga] Proposed Advisory

[jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Tim and all,

  Frankly, your below explanation doesn't ring true.  No
offense as I believe you to be a good enough fellow, but
the number of bad transfer reports bely your assertions.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Dec 4, 2007 11:25 PM
>To: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [ga] Proposed Advisory
>
>
>> And frankly, not only is it consistent with 
>> the wording and intent of the original transfers 
>> task force, but also of most everyone out 
>> there, save Network Solutions and GoDaddy.
>
>Of most everyone out there? Now that's what I call FUD. You have nothing
>to back up such a sweeping statement. When considering our customer's
>perspective, it seems to us that most everyone out there is okay with
>it. In fact, they like it. 
>
>There are issues at times, but they are easily resolved. And most of the
>issues arise due to the aftermarket where some registrants seem to think
>they can assign their registration agreement to anyone under any
>circumstances they choose without any questions raised on the
>registrar's part. We certainly want to facilitate that as best we can,
>but we also want to do it securely.
>
>GoDaddy is in complete compliance with the transfer policy as written.
>We are in agreement with Network Solution's view of the policy as Jon
>has clearly presented it in his comments on the proposed advisory. 
>
>Finally, trying to equate this with *the circus with NSI on transfers
>the first time* is also just more FUD.
>
>
>Tim 
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [ga] Proposed Advisory
>From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tue, December 04, 2007 11:48 am
>To: 
>Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>On 4-Dec-07, at 12:38 PM, Nevett, Jonathon wrote:
>
>> I don't disagree that there can be an enforcement track and a policy
>> track. Unfortunately, ICANN staff's draft advisory is attempting to 
>> go
>> down the road of amending the terms of the Transfer Policy on the 
>> issue
>> of whether registrars may lock domain names for a period of time or
>> require special provisions when a registrant changes Whois contact
>> information just before a transfer request - often a precursor to 
>> domain
>> name hijacking. Such policy work falls within the GNSO's mandate 
>> and is
>> well beyond the ICANN staff's authority. If you don't like a certain
>> business practice, you should seek a solution under the approved 
>> policy
>> process. The draft Advisory attempts to deny registrars a key tool in
>> protecting registrants from fraud by changing policy outside the
>> approved policy development process.
>
>This is not only inaccurate, but also FUD. ICANN is tasked with 
>enforcing its contracts. This policy is a part of that contract. ICANN 
>has issued an advisory (draft form or otherwise) outlining how they 
>are choosing to interpret that contract. And frankly, not only is it 
>consistent with the wording and intent of the original transfers task 
>force, but also of most everyone out there, save Network Solutions and 
>GoDaddy.
>
>We went through this circus with NSI on transfers the first time, 
>specifically because we didn't like your business practice. I don't 
>mind it if you choose not to abide by your contracts, but please don't 
>try to tell me that this isn't a contractual issue between NSI and 
>ICANN - at least not with a straight face.
>
>> It's very easy to use words like "flagrant" and "clear" without any
>> supporting facts
>
>
>No, the fact that we regularly have to reach out to registrars like 
>NSI on a personal basis and beg for a favor to have a name unlocked so 
>that a customer can transfer a name away from you makes it easy to use 
>words like "flagrant" and 'clear". Happy to provide as many specific 
>examples as you can stomach.
>
>Ross Rader
>Director, Retail Services
>t. 416.538.5492
>c. 416.828.8783
>http://www.domaindirect.com
>
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