Re: [dow3tf] TR: Task Force 3? Revised List of Companies toSurvey

["Ken Stubbs" <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

i believe we should ...

ken stubbs


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From: "Brian Darville" <BDARVILLE@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [dow3tf] TR: Task Force 3? Revised List of Companies toSurvey


> Why don't we get information from Verisign, Geotrust and other companies
in that market who should be included.
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> Brian
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> >>> <sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx> 01/14/04 05:38PM >>>
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> I suggested Verisign because they (apart from the domain name business)
> have a well known line of business dedicated to helping companies with
data
> authentication and preventing online fraud.   This would not necessarily
> mean that Verisign needs to get the survey questions.  It would simply be
> helpful to talk to them separately about how they help companies in this
> area.  See my link to the Verisign service from the prior email.
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> Sarah
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> Sarah B. Deutsch
> Vice President & Associate General Counsel
> Verizon Communications
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>                       "Ross Wm. Rader"
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>                       01/14/2004 04:18
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>                       ross
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> On 1/14/2004 3:34 PM Brian Darville noted that:
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> > My understanding was that we would obtain a response to the survey
> questions from the IETF.  I think it makes sense to submit the same
> questions to all of those surveyed and have them respond.
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> I think we might be saying the same thing - when I said "feedback" I
> meant "feedback" in the "respond to the survey questions" sense.
> Regardless, the questions will need to be modified slightly in that the
> ENUM working group does not collect data per se, but they are in the
> process of designing a series of specifications that, when implemented,
> will require others to do so. Rich is qualified to answer the questions
> on this basis. We should also request input from him regarding the
> status of the various drafts to ensure that we are evaluating only those
> drafts that have received some level of peer review and iteration. As I
> mentioned, anyone can publish an IETF draft and doing so does not
> necessarily mean that the proposal is well considered or useful. This
> approach will ensure that Terry's research is focused and effective.
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> > On another issue, the reason to include Verisign in the survey was to
> determine from the part of the company, which offers products and services
> in which customers require verification, what information it gathers and
> what methodologies it employs in verifing the accuracy of that data.  I
> don't think it makes sense to survey that part of Verisign that operates
> the .com and.net registries  -- that registry collects no personally
> identifiable information on any domian name registrant -- but rather the
> rest oftheir company, much of which offers products and services to
> customers  which requires verification.
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> Then I would reiterate my objection to their inclusion. Verisign is an
> exceptional creature in the context of the GNSO (as the monopoly
> provider of .com and .net and former sole source for all gTLDS) and
> rather unremarkable in all other markets that they play in. If this is
> the goal, then I propose that we solicit a response from Geotrust
> (www.geotrust.com) in that they play in two of the same significant
> markets that Verisign does (PKI and payment processing) without being a
> player in the gTLD market.
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> (obDisclaimer: Tucows purchases PKI products from Geotrust).
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