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RE: [dow2tf] Topics to discuss

  • To: "'Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP'" <mcade@xxxxxxx>, "'Jordyn A. Buchanan'" <jordyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'2DOW2tf'" <dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [dow2tf] Topics to discuss
  • From: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:19:41 -0500
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  • In-reply-to: <0F25F91B59355E42846E57527F331EA902DD39D7@lganj0se6.lga.att.com>
  • Sender: owner-dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


That's not what I am saying at all. I am not questioning whether it should
exist, just looking for an answer as what its function is supposed to be.
Has ICANN ever published a clear statement on that?

Right now what's going on is that everyone has their own view of what they
think the Whois database is for and we're trying to coming up with policies
about it. Seems to me the question of what it's for should be answered first
instead of trying to get the horse to push the cart.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:48 AM
To: Tim Ruiz; Jordyn A. Buchanan; 2DOW2tf
Subject: RE: [dow2tf] Topics to discuss

You seem to be saying tht the TFs should have started with working first on
whether WHOIS
should exist. That is not agree to in the terms of reference of any of the
TFs, and Council
did not ask that question.
WHOIS is a requirement that came in, with the creation of ICANN, as I
recall. That is why it is in the registrar contracts... 

I know that some people do want to start with that question, but I don't see
on that approach, within the Council, and that  isn't the task(s) given to
Council's TFs.

Marilyn S. Cade
AT&T Law & Government Affairs
1120 20th Street, NW, Suite 1000N
Washington, DC 20036

281-664-9731 e-fax
202-360-1196 c

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ruiz [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:26 AM
To: 'Jordyn A. Buchanan'; '2DOW2tf'
Subject: RE: [dow2tf] Topics to discuss


Jordyn's item 1 is troubling, but important. No policy discussion on
elements, access, accuracy, or privacy should even begin as long as there is
no consensus on the purpose of Whois. This has been my growing concern as I
follow the work of these three task forces.

I believe the question of purpose alone should have been the term of
reference, or description of work, for a single task force so that later
task forces could proceed with some common ground, and have a basis upon
which to evaluate the appropriateness of any policy recommendations.

Should there at least be a joint request from the three task forces to ICANN
to provide a purpose statement or mission statement regarding Whois?


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dow2tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jordyn A. Buchanan
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:36 AM
To: 2DOW2tf
Subject: [dow2tf] Topics to discuss

As we discussed on our last call, here are some core topics that were 
raised in a number of constituency statements (or in our conversation 
on Monday), and may be useful for us to discuss.  In some cases, I've 
identified some questions that may be helpful for us to answer.

1) What is the purpose of Whois?

2) What are the ideal methods for disclosing use of data and obtaining 

3) Can proxy services be improved to provide better privacy protection?

4) Tiered Access
   - What are reactions to Registrars' proposal?
   - What are the concerns relating to tiered access?

5) Preventing Marketing Uses--Are there implications for what data is 

6) Which data fields should be collected?

7) Is there a useful distinction between commercial and noncommercial 

8) Is there a good mechanism to allow registrants with legitimate 
privacy concerns to opt-out on a case-by-case basis?

9) What are the requirements of local/national privacy policies or 


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