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Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58


Dear James,
Helsinki set a new standard in CCWG-PDP efficiency and we should aim for something like that all meetings (for the benefit of the GNSO in particular) 

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 29 Nov 2016, at 13:18, James M. Bladel wrote:


Absolutely.
Altho I’d love to see some data that correlates attendance at an ICANN meeting with an uptick in new volunteer participation. We’ve often heard the CEO or Chair announce (in London, and most recently Hyderabad) that the current ICANN meeting is the “largest in its history.” But I haven’t yet seen where overall attendance translates in to a deeper pool of volunteers for policy work. 
        
Thanks –

J.
On 11/29/16, 12:43 , "owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Amr Elsadr" <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 


    Hi,
And if holding meeting B in Africa and LAC encourages stakeholders from those regions to engage with the GNSO’s PDP, then all the better. 

    Thanks.

    Amr
> On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
    >
    >
    > Hi Carlos
    >
> While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that the smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable ICANN to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and LAC regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings. 
    >
> Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal was rejected and the MSWG was established. 
    >
> Nick's proposal is available at: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/meetings-proposal-02oct12-en.pdf 
    >
> The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to continue regional rotation. 
    >
    > Donna
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. 
    > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:16 PM
    > To: James M. Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward Morris <egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>; GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
    > Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
    >
    >
    > Thank you James.
> But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for Policy 
    > (short) Meetings.
    > Don´t know if this was also discarded.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
    > +506 8837 7176
    > Skype: carlos.raulg
    > Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
    > On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34, James M. Bladel wrote:
    >
>> Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined the idea >> of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them. Mostly by folks from smaller >> and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN would be 
    >> permanently absent from their region.
    >>
    >> I don’t agree, but that was their finding.
    >>
    >> Thanks –
    >>
    >> J.
    >>
    >> On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
    >> <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >>
    >>    Carlos
    >>
    >>    Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
>> That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics perspective. 
    >>
    >>    Regards
    >>
    >>    Michele
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    >>    On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
    >> <crg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >>
    >>        ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.
    >>
>> I assume that those places are central located in terms of 
    >> airlines
>> logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff available, 
    >> facilites,
>> etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up meetings (A 
    >> recent
>> meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as many 
    >> ICANN staff
>> members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable places 
    >> to meet,
>> particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the Policy 
    >> Format
    >>        calls for).
    >>
    >>        Cheers
    >>
    >>        Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
    >>        +506 8837 7176
    >>        Skype: carlos.raulg
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>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: 
    >>
    >>> Carlos
    >>>
    >>> Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
    >>>
    >>> Regards
    >>>
    >>> Michele
    >>>
    >>>
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