[council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi on our work

[Phil Corwin <psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

FYI, some useful background for meeting with Fadi tomorrow...



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From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxx 
[accountability-cross-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Jordan Carter 
[jordan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:20 AM
To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Cc: Accountability Cross Community
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi on our work

For those interested, closing comments from Thomas and Fadi.

Jordan

>>THOMAS RICKERT:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  AND BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE WANTED TO 
>>THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE AND FOR HAVING 
>>ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU WHERE THE COMMUNITY PROCESS STANDS.

AT THE SAME TIME, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT KAVOUSS SAID.  WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO 
EXTEND THE INVITATION TO WORK WITH US TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND CAN TO THOSE 
WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH US HERE TODAY.
IT'S IMPORTANT WORK.  IT'S GOOD WORK.  IT'S ASTOUNDING TO SEE THE COLLABORATIVE 
SPIRIT OF EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, TO COME TO A CONCLUSION.  AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS 
VERY CHALLENGING, WE'RE EVEN HAVING FUN AT TIMES.
SO COME JOIN THE TEAM.

>>FADI CHEHADE:  THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AND ALL OF US TO COME AND TAKE SOME 
>>TIME WITH YOU.  I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THREE SUBSTANTIVE POINTS.

THE FIRST ONE, WHATEVER WE DO, MAKE YOUR KEY PRINCIPLE THE AVOIDANCE OF 
CAPTURE.  IT IS CRITICAL.  IT IS HOW WE HOLD TO THE MULTISTAKEHOLDER MODEL.  IF 
WE ARE CAPTURED OR IF WE CREATE A MODEL THAT ALLOWS FOR CAPTURE BY SPECIAL 
INTERESTS OR SPECIAL AGENDAS, IN MY OPINION, THE ICANN WE WERE ALL HANDED WOULD 
HAVE BEEN RUINED.

TWO, WATCH CAREFULLY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES THAT REFOCUS AND ANCHOR ICANN 
IN THE CALIFORNIA COURTS AS OPPOSED TO CONTINUING THE PROJECT OF GLOBALIZATION 
WE ALL STARTED.  WATCH FOR THAT.
IF ALL ROADS END THERE, THAT'S ONE THING.  BUT IF ALL ROADS START AT THE 
COURTS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.  SO THIS IS THE DISTINCTION.

ARE THE COURTS THE FINAL POINT OF ENFORCEMENT OR ARE THEY THE FIRST POINT OF 
ENFORCEMENT?  ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION AS YOU WATCH THE VARIOUS MODELS.  AND 
THIS IS CRITICAL.

THE GOOD NEWS IS OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND I THINK MANY OF YOU 
GOVERNMENTS WHO HAVE TALKED TO ME HAVE VOICED YOUR CONCERN WITH A CALIFORNIA 
SYSTEM OR COURT SYSTEM BECOMING OUR FIRST  RECOURSE.

AND THE THIRD POINT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU BEFORE I LEAVE IS NOT TO FORGET 
WHY WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS.  I THINK IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN ALL THESE GROUPS 
WERE CREATED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A TRANSITION WORK.  THE QUESTION WAS 
ASKED WHEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS NO LONGER IN ITS STEWARDSHIP ROLE AS THE 
BACKSTOP OF THE COMMUNITY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO REPLACE THAT?  THAT WAS THE 
QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED.  AND, THEREFORE, AS THINGS GET PILED ON, THE TEST YOU 
SHOULD USE IS IS THIS NECESSARY TO REPLACE THE BACKSTOP ROLE OF THE U.S. 
GOVERNMENT?

IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE WILL WATCH OUR TRANSITION SLIP AWAY, SOMETHING 
THAT I THINK WOULD BE A SHAME.

WE WOULD LIKE ICANN TO BECOME AN INDEPENDENT MULTISTAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATION.  
THIS IS THE MOMENT.


On 17 October 2015 at 16:19, Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
<el@xxxxxxxx<mailto:el@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
The Chehadé-Waffler at it again.

el

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On 17 Oct 2015, at 15:32, Jordan Carter 
<jordan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jordan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Those of you interested in our work will be fascinated to learn that ICANN's 
outgoing CEO Fadi Chehade is presenting his own personal interpretation right 
now at GAC:

https://icann.adobeconnect.com/dub54-liffeya

Both on the work we have done (where the representation isn't accurate) and on 
the schedule of our future work (where according to him, we need to finish in 5 
weeks).

You may find it instructive to observe, or to read the transcripts.

best
Jordan

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