Re: [council] Motion to extend term of GNSO liaison to the GAC

[Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

My understanding has always been that the two are interconnected (the GNSO 
liaison to the GAC and the work of the GAC-GNSO Consultative Group “CG”). If I 
recall correctly, the GNSO liaison to the GAC was a suggestion of that group 
with the intention of the liaison serving a role in the early engagement 
process.

Perhaps an updated briefing of that group’s work is in order, however, I’m not 
sure that much has been done since the last time the Council discussed this 
topic. Although the GAC has not (to my knowledge) specifically renewed its 
commitment to the group’s work, it hasn’t (again…, to my knowledge) indicated 
otherwise.

Recently, one of the outcomes of the CG has been that both the GNSO Council and 
the GAC have approved the launching of a pilot program to implement a set of 
recommendations targeting GAC early engagement in the GNSO’s PDP — 
specifically, the issue scoping phase of a PDP 
(http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gac-cg-issue-scoping-27jan15-en.pdf). The 
GAC-GNSO CG has also begun working on a set of criteria to evaluate how 
effective these recommendations will be. That may prove to be helpful in any 
future analysis of the extent of success of this program. However, this will 
not be possible until a new PDP is launched, which has not happened since these 
recommendations were adopted.

It is also noteworthy to mention that the GNSO liaison to the GAC has specific 
duties to carry out in this issue scoping phase pilot program. Mason has been 
very helpful in the development of this role, so personally, I believe it would 
be beneficial to extend his term for another year.

Thanks.

Amr

On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> As long as the pilot is continuing, sure, I am happy for Mason to stay
> in the role.  That is not my issue and I misundertood the motion as
> implying an approval of continuing the program.  I forget, does the
> pilot have a sunset date when it ceases to be a pilot and become a
> steady state practice? Or is nothing so permanent as a temporary
> solution, i.e. the pilot is permanent?
> 
> And if Mason is being able to help untangle at least a few issues that
> is a really good thing to hear.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> On 05-Jun-15 10:56, Volker Greimann wrote:
>> 
>> Avri,
>> 
>> you raise interesting questions, and I hope we will be able to discuss
>> them here on list and at our next meeting. As Carlos pointed out, this
>> is intended purely to maintain the liaison function, which has served
>> us and the GAC by allowing Mason to convey our thinking to the GAC and
>> the other way round. As Phil pointed out, direct benefits were seen
>> also in the IGO WG.
>> 
>> Is it enough to warrant the continuation? I believe it is, but you are
>> right that we should have this discussion. After all, an informed
>> approval is better than just waiving it through.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Volker
>> 
>> 
>> Am 05.06.2015 um 15:37 schrieb Avri Doria:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> While I probably agree, I think it would be good to have an analysis of
>>> what it achieved before we decide to renew it.
>>> 
>>> To what extent have things changed?  Do we get input earlier? Have we
>>> stopped GAC end runs? Or even slowed them down?  Have we made sure that
>>> GAC concerns where not only fed in early enough in the various
>>> processes, but are taken seriously and avoided end runs?
>>> 
>>> I expect the answer to most of these is a somewhat tepid 'maybe'.
>>> 
>>> So while I am possibly inclined to voting for another year of pilot,
>>> since it is a pilot I believe I need a bit more information before
>>> deciding.
>>> 
>>> Also is there a similar move in the GAC to renew?  Or will we be
>>> renewing it and then asking them to do please do likewise?  Have they
>>> invited us to renew?  I know the motions say that both GAC and the GNSO
>>> have already agreed to renew, perhaps we should list the resolutions and
>>> the statement from GAC that shows this is so.  I think I missed them
>>> somehow.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05-Jun-15 08:35, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>>> Dear councillors,
>>>> 
>>>> as the pilot program for the GNSO liaison to the GAC will be ending
>>>> its first term shortly, and the role has shown to be beneficial to
>>>> both the council and the GAC, it would be beneficial to extend the
>>>> program for FY 16.
>>>> 
>>>> I am therefore submitting this motion to extend the term of the
>>>> current GNSO liaison, Mason Cole, for your attention and approval.
>>>> Mason has already indicated he would be willing to serve another term.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Volker
>>>> 
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