Re: [council] Motion for the creation of CWG-IG

[Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Brian,

I agree with Maria. It would have been helpful to bring this up during one of 
the past two council calls, when it was on the agenda as a discussion topic. I 
hope you can appreciate why this suggestion for an amendment is problematic at 
this point in time.

Thanks.

Amr

On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Brian,
> 
> It's up to Avri to consider whether this amendment can be considered friendly 
> or not, but it looks quite troublesome to me. It would almost double the 
> number of GNSO reps on the WG, significantly changing the carefully agreed 
> make-up. 
> 
> Given that the ccNSO and ALAC have already approved the charter as is, how 
> should we expect them to react to a last minute change to the relative 
> numbers of representatives on the WG?
> 
> Should they go back and vote our amended version through again? (I can't see 
> them doing that.)
> 
> I am very concerned that this amendment would put the whole CCWG initiative 
> in jeopardy and don't understand why such a substantive change to a charter 
> that's been held up since May - at the request of the CSG - would be 
> suggested at the last minute. 
> 
> Maria
> 
> On 15 October 2014 09:00, Winterfeldt, Brian J. 
> <brian.winterfeldt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Avri and all:
> 
>  
> 
> I write to offer a potentially friendly amendment to the motion for the 
> creation of the CWG-IG.
> 
>  
> 
> By way of background, the current motion reads that “Each GNSO Stakeholder 
> Group will identify one member to serve on the CWG-IG by 15-October-2014.”  
> The IPC feels that this is an oversimplification.  Instead, in conformity 
> with the CWG-IG Charter, and discussions among the Charter drafting team, we 
> propose that the motion instead read as follows:
> 
>  
> 
> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group, or (where a stakeholder group consists of 
> separate constituencies) each constituency, notwithstanding the GNSO Co-Chair 
> appointment, will identify one member to serve on the CWG-IG by 
> 15-October-2014.
> 
>  
> 
> We hope this revised language and level of clarity meets with your approval.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>  
> 
> Brian
> 
>  
> 
> Brian J. Winterfeldt 
> Head of Internet Practice
> Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
> 
> 2900 K Street NW, North Tower - Suite 200 / Washington, DC 20007-5118
> p / (202) 625-3562 f / (202) 339-8244
> 
> 575 Madison Avenue / New York, NY 10022-2585
> p / (212) 940.6762  f / (212) 894.5585
> brian.winterfeldt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / www.kattenlaw.com
> 
>  
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> From: owner-council@gnso.icann.orgOn Behalf OfAvri Doria
> 
> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:40:08 AM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & 
> Canada)
> 
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Subject: Re: [council] Motion for the creation of CWG-IG
> 
>  
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> noticed at least two typos in the motion.
> 
>  
> 
> avri
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On 03-Oct-14 11:32, Avri Doria wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> 
> > 
> 
> > Please find a motion for approving the charter of the CWG-IG as was
> 
> > discussed at our last meeting.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Since James and I worked on this, I have added his name as seconder
> 
> > but he needs to either accept or reject that.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Note the last item in the motion:
> 
> > 
> 
> >> 4.  As the charter calls for each of the chartering organizations to
> 
> >> appoint a co-chair for the group, the GNSO Council appoints  <name
> 
> >> here> to serve as a member of the CWG-IG, to serve as the GNSO
> 
> >> co-chair of the CWG-IG, and to serve as GNSO Council liaison to the
> 
> >> group.
> 
> > 
> 
> > We need to decide which name goes here.  Does no necessarily need to
> 
> > be the same person for co-chair and liaison.  Rafik Dammak is a
> 
> > current co-facilitator for the group from the GNSO side.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Thanks
> 
> > 
> 
> > avri
> 
> > --
> 
> > 
> 
> > Adoption of a Charter for a Cross Community Working Group  to discuss
> 
> > Internet governance (CWG-IG) issues affecting ICANN and make
> 
> > recommendation to the chartering organization on these issues
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Made by: Avri Doria
> 
> > Seconded by: James Bladel (?)
> 
>  
> 
> (?) can be removed
> 
>  
> 
> > 
> 
> > Whereas,
> 
> > 
> 
> >     This group was initiated in December 2013 in response to a call
> 
> > from ICANN CEO and has been working informally since then;
> 
> > 
> 
> >     The group has developed the charter found at
> 
> > <https://community.icann.org/x/ryufAg> [attached];
> 
> > 
> 
> >     This charter has already been approved by ALAC, ccNSO and SSAC.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Resolved:
> 
> > 
> 
> > The GNSO Council approves the Charter
> 
> > <https://community.icann.org/x/ryufAg>.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Each  GNSO Stakeholder Group will identify one member to serve on the
> 
> > CWG-IG by 15-October-2014  taking into account the charter requirement
> 
> > that best efforts  should be made to ensure that members:
> 
> > 
> 
> >     - Have sufficient expertise to participate in the applicable
> 
> > subject matter;
> 
> > 
> 
> >     - Commit to actively participate in the activities of the CWG-IG
> 
> > on an ongoing and long-term basis; and
> 
> > 
> 
> >     - Where appropriate, solicit and communicate the views and
> 
> > concerns of individuals in the organization that appoints them.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 3.  The GNSO will collaborate with the other SOs and ACs to issue a
> 
> > call  for observers to join the CWG-IG, each in accordance with its own 
> > rules.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 4.  As the charter calls for each of the chartering organization to
> 
>  
> 
> Should be: As the charter calls for each of the chartering organizations to
> 
>  
> 
> > appoint a co-chair for the group, the GNSO Council appoints  <name
> 
> > here> to serve as a member of the CWG-IG, to serve as the GNSO
> 
> > co-chair of the CSG-IG and to serve as GNSO Council liaison to the group.
> 
>  
> 
> Should be  CWG-IG and to serve as GNSO Council liaison to the group.
> 
>  
> 
> > 
> 
> ===========================================================
> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
> This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information 
> intended for the exclusive
> use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain 
> information that is
> proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under 
> applicable law.  If you
> are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, 
> copying, disclosure or 
> distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or 
> sanction.  Please notify
> the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and 
> delete the original 
> message without making any copies.
> ===========================================================
> NOTIFICATION:  Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP is an Illinois limited liability 
> partnership that has
> elected to be governed by the Illinois Uniform Partnership Act (1997).
> ===========================================================
>