RE: Re: [council] Enhancing ICANN Accountability | ICANN - Proposed Next Steps for the Process

[john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Avri,
 
Now it is a party.  With regard to your point, there is "far less support for, 
or agreement on, a bottom-up model" from whom?  The BC strongly supports the 
concept, despite its difference from the more normal top-down process in most 
corporations.
 
As for Jonathan, he is elected the chair of the GNSO Council and, perhaps, as 
the titular head of the GNSO in full, the increased use of him by the staff and 
CEO to stand as the actual head of the entire GNSO is a point of irritation for 
many.
 
If I were Fadi, I'd want to do the same thing.  It makes life neater and makes 
decisions more easily reached.  But that is not the way we have and ought to 
work.
 
My view.
 
Berard
 
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [council] Enhancing ICANN 
Accountability | ICANN - Proposed Next Steps for the Process
From: "Avri Doria" <avri@xxxxxxx>
Date: 5/29/14 8:14 am
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


 Hi,
 
 On 29-May-14 10:55, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
 > By setting the agenda on a question of "4 or 5" we miss the larger point
 > of empowering the muilti-stakeholder, consensus-driven, bottom-up
 > process. If that is too messy a place for the IANA contract to reside
 > (which, I think, is Fadi's goal in all of this), then so be it.
 > 
 
 
 I think that while there is support for a multistakeholder process,
 there is far less support for, or agreement on, a bottom-up model.
 
 I believe senior management has more a representative model in mind.
 For example according to the by-laws, we elect Jonathan as the chair of
 the GNSO, he therefore speaks for the GNSO when he wears his Chair of
 the GNSO hat. Obviously he can't be the spokesperson in everything, so
 then the GNSO council should be able elect someone else to be the
 representative for the issue under discussion. On the case of the IANA
 committee, it is believed, we should be able to elect 2 people to
 represent us.
 
 That is, they expect us to be able to elect representatives.
 
 On the other had, we have varying degrees of trust of elected
 representatives. Some want to keep the power as close to the bottom as
 they can, which is incompatible with entrusting representatives, and
 they want to bring every issue back to vox populi.
 
 Both the representative model and the 'check with the people before very
 decision' model are multistakeholder, and both can even be described as
 bottom-up, but one is a lot more bottom-up than the other.
 
 The problem with comparative body count for the committees, is they are
 offering a representative model whereas many in GNSO seem to want a more
 of an ambassadorial model where the 'ambassador' to the group from each
 SG has to be in constant contact with her capital before she can speak.
 
 avri