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RE: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report
- To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report
- From: John Berard <johnberard@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 05:34:21 -0800
- Cc: "'Council GNSO'" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Maria Farrell'" <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>, "'David Cake'" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'John Berard'" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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<p dir="ltr">All this makes it a likely subject for our next meeting if not
under AOB today</p>
<div class="quote">On Dec 12, 2013 5:22 AM, "Gomes, Chuck"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With
regard to ‘</span><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">a
single individual to both GAC & ccNSO</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">’,
for in-person ICANN public meetings, the ccNSO meetings conflict with GAC
meetings just as do the GNSO meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'John Berard'; 'Maria Farrell'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'David Cake'; 'John Berard'; 'Council GNSO'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Two
questions for you and the Council:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB"
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Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
such a position (liaison) be served by a single individual to both GAC &
ccNSO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-GB"
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Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
GNSO groups seem to be generally organising to place representatives /
liaisons into the CCWG and other internet Governance initiatives.<br>
The GNSO Council has agreed (in BA) to James Bladel and Jennifer Wolfe being
our “liaisons” to the Multi-stakeholder Innovation Panel initiative.<br>
Are there any other such initiatives that the Council should be actively
monitoring and contributing to via a “liaison” of sorts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
John Berard
<a href="mailto:[mailto:johnberard@xxxxxxx]";>[mailto:johnberard@xxxxxxx]</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2013 17:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Maria Farrell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Cake; John Berard; Council GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The idea to fund a ccNSO liaison from
among the GNSO Councillors leaving their seat has been floated but little
discussed. Perhaps we ought to put it on the weekend agenda for
Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Berard<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Maria Farrell <<a
href="mailto:maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx";>maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi
John,<br>
<br>
Many thanks for this summary and indeed for getting up at 0400 to be able to
provide it to us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">I agree
with your suggestion, and David's support, for a funded liaison person who can
attend ccNSO and- David's suggestion - GAC meetings that run at the same time
as ours. It could be a
useful first step to figuring out how to implement the ATRT2 recommendation
that we somehow get the GAC more active in GNSO PDPs.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I wonder how we would go about
discussing that in more detail in the GNSO and, if appropriate, getting the
idea into the works?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">That said,
I personally think you're doing a terrific job keeping us informed about
cc-world and it is really useful to get these updates from you, with your day
to day knowledge of GNSO Council
issues, e.g. the cross community working group. You are in danger of making
yourself indispensable!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 11 December 2013 02:05, David Cake
<<a href="mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target="_blank">dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
On 11 Dec 2013, at 7:38 am, <a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> wrote:<br>
> 4. As the GNSO Council liaison to the ccNSO Council, I have already
suggested, because we meet at the same times during the three international
meetings, that someone just off the Council be asked to fill the role.
This brings up a question of funding.
I think the position should be funded and a specific set of
responsibilities attached. I am just making this up as I go
along.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Regardless,
it seems a valuable suggestion. We have the same issue with the GAC - the major
SOs and ACs are all more or less so busy that they consume almost all the time
available at an ICANN meeting, making
it pretty much impossible to effectively monitor one if you are an active
participant in another. Liaisons are seeming a more valuable idea with each
meeting, and it seem a practical necessity that they are not full serving
members of the origin group in order
to have the time to fully monitor the group they are outreaching to. And of
course funding is important, as the ability to attend physical meetings is
essential for the role.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">
David</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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