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Re: [council] ATRT2 summary

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  • Subject: Re: [council] ATRT2 summary
  • From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:02:30 -0600
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i'm happy to join/help the drafting gang.

mikey

On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:26 AM, "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Avri & John,
>  
> Maria, are you in a position to lead a draft of this asap?
> If not, or in any event, are there any other volunteers?
> 
> Maria’s preparation work and the recordings / transcripts from our meetings 
> in BA will provide the material.
>  
> But … it needs to be synthesised into a concise and effective input (or short 
> & sweet as John put it) with council support.
>  
> Any takers?  One week is a tight deadline!
>  
> Jonathan
>  
> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 02 December 2013 23:33
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [council] ATRT2 summary
>  
> Hi,
> 
> Speaking as a member of the ATRT from the GNSO, it would be good to have a 
> response from the GNSO's council letting us know what the council agrees with 
> and what you don't. And any uncovered concerns the council may have.
> 
> I encourage us to submit.
> Avri Doria
> 
> Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Apologies,
>  
> 
> The input we had was from Maria (not Marika as below) but the question 
> remains:
>  
> 
> Do we provide written input to the ATRT2?
>  
> 
> If so; (a) it needs to be done by 13 Dec and (b) is Maria in a position to 
> hold the pen?
>  
> 
> Thanks,
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Jonathan
>  
> 
> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 02 December 2013 17:47
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [council] ATRT2 summary
>  
> 
> All,
>  
> 
> We used this useful input from Marika to provide input to the ATRT2 in Buenos 
> Aires. 
> I recall that we provided some well thought out and apparently helpful input 
> in relation to the PDP and our role in managing policy development within the 
> GNSO.
> 
> In addition we touched on it during the wrap-up session on Thursday.
>  
> 
> We have to decide and act quickly on whether or not to provide written input 
> by close of the reply period on 13 December 2013.
>  
> 
> Thereafter they aim to produce the final report by 31 December 2013.
>  
> 
> Any comments or input on this welcome.
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Jonathan
>  
> 
> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 20 November 2013 12:21
> To: 'Maria Farrell'; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [council] ATRT2 summary
>  
> 
> Many thanks Maria,
>  
> 
> All, please note that we are meeting with the ATRT2 in our second meeting 
> GNSO Council meeting today. 
>  
> 
> First we seat the new council, second we elect the chair.
>  
> 
> Then we meet with the ATRT.  Exiting councillors WELCOME to participate.  
> It’s an open / public meeting.
>  
> 
> Jonathan
>  
> 
> From: Maria Farrell [mailto:maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx] ! 
> Sent: 20 November 2013 09:09
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [council] ATRT2 summary
>  
> 
> Dear fellow councilors,
> 
> With apologies for the time it's taken me to send this last part, here is a 
> summary of the ATRT2 report on the GNSO PDP. (I'm afraid I ran out of time to 
> summarise the rest of the report.)
> 
> I hope this is useful.
> 
> Full text of the report is here: 
> http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review/atrt/draft-recommendations-15oct13-en.pdf
> 
> And the GNSO PDP part starts on page 59 of the report.
>  
> 
> All the best, Maria
> 
> ATRT2 Report – section on GNSO PDP
>  
> The problem:
> GNSO PDP is weak when it comes to resolving strong views and financial 
> interests.
>  
> Background research
> Staff paper on improving the PDP is in the works
>  
> Community input
> Chairs and WG veterans stress need for F2F meetings, professional 
> facilitators, Board involvement and for people were both for and against the 
> Board issuing threats and deadlines.
>  
> Interconnect Report Findings
> PDPs mostly done by North Americans and Europeans
> Most active participants are paid to be there
> Many participants dissatisfied with process, time it takes and feel it’s not 
> worth while – one time only WG participation is typical
> Culturally, PDP and WG process very Western culturally and English language 
> based
>  
> ATRT2 Findings
>  
> Growing sense that professional facilitators are needed to help resolve 
> difficult issues, although it may not suffice
>  
> Current model is based on email and conference calls, but F2F is more 
> effective
> ! Board deadlines sometimes used to overcome intractable differences, but 
> it’s not clear how to ensure people negotiate within PDP in good faith.  
>  
> Board is part of the problem: Board deadlined PDPs don’t always create good 
> policy.  Or Board says it wants a policy and decides its own response in the 
> meantime, or Board nullifies outcomes of a PDP.  This creates distrust that 
> some in the PDP are not committed to it and will undermine outcome by 
> lobbying Board or GAC.
>  
> ATRT2 Draft New Recommendations
> ICANN should:
> Fund facilitators and draft guidelines for when they can be used
> Provide funding for more F2F meetings
> Work with community to make PDP faster, to attract more people
>  
> The GAC should:
> With the GNSO, find ways to input to WGs and to GNSO Council on draft PDP 
> reports
>  
> The Board and GNSO should:
> Start an initiative to increase participation from outside NA/Europe, 
> non-English speaking, other cultures, people not funded by industry. Players
>  
> Also:
>  
> The Board should set procedures for what to do when the GNSO cannot come to a 
> decision within the time, and state “under what conditions the Board believes 
> it may alter PDP recommendations after formal Board acceptance”.
>  
> A step should be added to the PDP process where those unhappy with staff 
> comment summary can respond.  
>  
>  


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