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[council] The end of conflicts as we conjure them
- To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "joy@xxxxxxx" <joy@xxxxxxx>
- Subject: [council] The end of conflicts as we conjure them
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- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:16:37 -0700
- Cc: "Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Julie Hedlund" <julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx>, "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Mason Cole" <mcole@xxxxxxxxxx>
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Jeff, et. al.,</div><div><br></div><div>It seems as if my
molehill of a question has become a mountain of, well, quite something
else.</div><div><br></div><div>For the record, please note my initial question
-- only half-again longer than a Tweet:</div><div><br></div><div><i>"Before I
offer comment on Mason's draft and before we convene on Thursday can I get some
guidance on how those of us who have a conflict on the matter of new gTLDs
should conduct ourselves or offer input?"</i></div><div><br></div><div>First, I
was always intending to contribute to the discussion. I have guidance
from my constituency and a personal point-of-view.
</div><div><br></div><div>Second, I did not think, as Jeff rightly suggests,
that we all have conflicts. Sort of a "let he who is without guilt cast
the first stone" kind of thing. I like it. I was thinking only of
the way the matter has played out at the board level and the method by which
the board's new gTLD committee was populated.</div><div><br></div><div>Third, I
just did not want to run afoul of our rules.
</div><div><br></div><div>The matter was dropped by me upon reading Julie's
initial response which I translate to: Be vocal, be transparent. Perhaps
we could print bumper
stickers?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div><br></div><div>John
Berard</div><div>Founder</div><div>Credible Context</div><div>58 West Portal
Avenue, #291</div><div>San Francisco, CA 94127</div><div>m:
415.845.4388</div><div><br><br></div>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: RE: [council] Conflicts and the Draft reply to Fadi<br>
From: "Neuman, Jeff" <<a
href="mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx";>Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Wed, December 19, 2012 1:49 pm<br>
To: John Berard <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>, "<a
href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>joy@xxxxxxx</a>" <<a
href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>joy@xxxxxxx</a>><br>
Cc: Jonathan Robinson <<a
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
Julie<br>
Hedlund <<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx";>julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
Mason Cole <<a href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
I have to say that I find this conversation of "conflicts" quite distracting to
replying to Fadi.<br>
<br>
Our job as councilors is to represent our communities not our own individual
statements or thoughts. If our respective communities are supportive of our
actions, then by definition, there should be no individual conflicts. I know
as a Registry Councilor, I am required to seek registry input on substantive
responses and convey those views. Therefore, even if I were personally
conflicted for some reason, I could still do my job as a representative of
those I represent. If I represent them otherwise, I am subject to being removed
by my SG.<br>
<br>
That aside, the implication from the question that anyone impacted by a
decision of the GNSO Council is considered as "conflicted" is not appropriate.
Impact does NOT equal Conflict. If it did, everyone would be impacted. The
registries and registrars that have to implement the changes are impacted. The
trademark owners, business, non-profits, non-commercial entities and individual
registrants that will be financially impacted by including these changes (or
not including them), etc. The attorneys on the Council that represent those
entities are also impacted, etc. In short, everyone is impacted in one way or
another.<br>
<br>
Can we please drop this conversation and move on to the discussion of the
substance of a response.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Jeffrey J. Neuman<br>
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a
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href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
On Behalf Of John Berard<br>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:15 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>joy@xxxxxxx</a><br>
Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Julie Hedlund; <a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>; Mason Cole<br>
Subject: Re: [council] Conflicts and the Draft reply to Fadi<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On Dec 19, 2012, at 11:29 AM, joy <<a
href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>joy@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Thanks John, glad you're clear about it, three-dimensional ways to<br>
> assess commentary: indeed!<br>
> I would only add that, imho, while the operating procedures provide<br>
> that a conflict of interest, made public, does not preclude<br>
> participation, nor does it automatically permit such participation.<br>
><br>
> Best<br>
> Joy<br>
><br>
> On 20/12/2012 4:35 a.m., <a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> wrote:<br>
>> Joy,<br>
>><br>
>> I thought the guidance clear enough. Financial interests that
touch<br>
>> ICANN are a part of the Statement of Interest and a conflict of<br>
>> interest, made public, does not preclude participation. It just<br>
>> allows fellow Councillors a more three-dimensional way to assess
that<br>
>> commentary.<br>
>><br>
>> As for Mason's draft, I have consulted with the BC and we are<br>
>> thinking through a set of suggestions.<br>
>><br>
>> Watch this space!<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> John Berard Founder Credible Context 58 West Portal Avenue, #291
San<br>
>> Francisco, CA 94127 m: 415.845.4388<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [council] Conflicts<br>
>> and the Draft reply to Fadi From: joy <<a
href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>joy@xxxxxxx</a><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:joy@xxxxxxx";>mailto:joy@xxxxxxx</a>>> Date:
Tue, December 18, 2012 6:06 pm To:<br>
>> Jonathan Robinson <<a
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>>>
Cc: "'Julie Hedlund'"<br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx";>julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx</a> ><<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx";>mailto:julie.hedlund@xxxxxxxxx</a>>>,<br>
>> <a href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
<<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,<br>
>> <a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
<<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
"'Mason<br>
>> Cole'" <<a href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>
><<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks Jonathan, that is helpful.<br>
>><br>
>> I won't venture to speak for John, but recall his question was:<br>
>><br>
>> "Before I offer comment on Mason's draft and before we convene on<br>
>> Thursday can I get some guidance on how those of us who have a<br>
>> conflict on the matter of new gTLDs should conduct ourselves or
offer<br>
>> input?"<br>
>><br>
>> I do not yet have a firm position, but rather was supporting the<br>
>> request for guidance on how the conflict of interest rules (as<br>
>> outlined by Julie) apply to developing a response to the letter
from<br>
>> Fadi in this particular case. NCSG has seen the letter prepared by<br>
>> Mason. I am not aware of any discussion of conflicts of interest of<br>
>> NCSG Councillors who, in any event, support the GNSO Council
writing<br>
>> to the CEO as proposed.<br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps those Councillors with possible conflicts can assist by<br>
>> responding before the council meeting<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Joy<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 19/12/2012 11:51 a.m., Jonathan Robinson wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks Joy,<br>
>><br>
>>> I am mindful of the short time between now and the Council
meeting.<br>
>>> Also of the issues that time zones create. Therefore I want to<br>
>>> respond quickly.<br>
>><br>
>>> My personal thoughts on this are that Councillors can
contribute<br>
>>> from two key positions:<br>
>><br>
>>> 1. As a representative of the group they represent on the Council
2.<br>
>>> In their individual capacity<br>
>><br>
>>> It will be helpful if Councillors can be clear in which
capacity<br>
>>> they are contributing.<br>
>><br>
>>> In the case of 1 above, I trust that this has been discussed to
some<br>
>>> extent in the groups / constituencies and therefore that
councillors<br>
>>> may be in a position to represent group positions.<br>
>><br>
>>> In the case of 2 above, we have SOI's from individual councillors
so<br>
>>> that helps to inform us. After that, it may be down to a matter
of<br>
>>> judgement by councillors as to whether or not they contribute or
not<br>
>>> to a specific portion of the discussion.<br>
>><br>
>>> I stress here that I have responded rapidly to try to assist and
am<br>
>>> open to any other contributions on this, particularly to the
extent<br>
>>> that they are based on existing bylaws or procedures.<br>
>><br>
>>> Joy, I understand that you are seeking guidance but do you (or
the<br>
>>> NCSG to the extent that you are aware of it) have a firm view
on<br>
>>> this issue?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Jonathan<br>
>><br>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: <a
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>>> <<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>> [<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
On Behalf Of joy Sent: 18<br>
>>> December 2012 22:05 To: Julie Hedlund Cc:<br>
>>> <a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>;<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
<<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>
List; Mason<br>
>> Cole Subject: Re: [council]<br>
>>> Conflicts and the Draft reply to Fadi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks Julie, and John for raising this. Given that John's
question<br>
>>> relates not to a motion, but to a matter of Council business
(the<br>
>>> draft reply to Fadi), it would appear that the Council
operating<br>
>>> procedures cited here do not apply. If so, can I ask what
guidance<br>
>>> can Council offer (or be offered) on the point John has raised<br>
>>> (particularly in light of how the Board has dealt with conflicts
of<br>
>>> interest and recent sensitivities on this topic). Cheers<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> Joy<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> On 18/12/2012 12:24 p.m., Julie Hedlund wrote:<br>
>>>> John,<br>
>><br>
>>>> Thank you for your question with respect to conflicts of
interest.<br>
>>>> Here is some information that may be helpful.<br>
>><br>
>>>> The GNSO Council Operating Procedures (see<br>
>>>> <a
href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.";>http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/gnso-operating-procedures-13sep12-en.</a><br>
>> pdf)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> differentiate between "conflicts of interest" and "statements
of<br>
>>>> interest." The Procedures contain requirements relating to<br>
>>>> Statements of interest in Section 5.0. These are defined as,
"A<br>
>>>> written statement made by a Relevant Party that provides a<br>
>>>> declaration of interests that may affect the Relevant
Party's<br>
>>>> judgement, on any matters to be considered by the GNSO
Group.<br>
>>>> " These statements of interest are to be provided by any
member of<br>
>>>> a GNSO Group (such as the Council, but also Working<br>
>>>> Groups) to the Secretariat not less frequently than once a
year and<br>
>>>> at the beginning of a GNSO Group meeting the Chair asks if
members<br>
>>>> have updates to their statements of interest. Below I've
included<br>
>>>> the questions that form the content of the statement of
interest.<br>
>><br>
>>>> The Procedures also reference "conflicts of interest," but
only in<br>
>>>> the context of a disclaimer (see excerpt from Section 4.5,<br>
>>>> Obligational Abstentions, below) that refers to the Statements
of<br>
>>>> Interest procedures and notes that these statements do not
require<br>
>>>> that the Councilor abstain from participating and voting.
In<br>
>>>> particular, section 4.5 notes as follows:<br>
>><br>
>>>> /".the term "Conflict of Interest" will not pertain when a
GNSO<br>
>>>> Councilor argues for and votes "Yes" or "No" on a matter
which, by<br>
>>>> virtue of that action, directly or indirectly benefits that<br>
>>>> individual financially or economically; however, that<br>
>>>> interpretation does not imply that circumstances cannot occur
in<br>
>>>> which a Councilor may perceive his/her situation as obligating
a<br>
>>>> formal abstention." /<br>
>><br>
>>>> With respect to abstentions, the "Obligational Abstention"<br>
>>>> (see details below) perhaps addresses what you refer to as<br>
>>>> "conflict of interest." That is, it allows a Councilor to
abstain<br>
>>>> from a vote as follows and provides cases as examples (see
below):<br>
>><br>
>>>> "A Councilor who believes that proceeding to vote on a motion
or<br>
>>>> action before the Council not only warrants, but requires,
his/her<br>
>>>> abstention and, thereby, recusal from deliberations, is
considered<br>
>>>> to be facing an obligational abstention."<br>
>><br>
>>>> I hope that this is helpful, but please let me know if you
need<br>
>>>> more information or have more questions.<br>
>><br>
>>>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>>>> Julie<br>
>><br>
>>>> Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<br>
>><br>
>>>> *Excerpted from GNSO Council Operating Procedures, Section
5.3.3,<br>
>>>> page 21*<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> 5.3.3 _Content_<br>
>><br>
>>>> Relevant Parties shall complete all six sections of the
Statement<br>
>>>> of Interest form as specified below:<br>
>><br>
>>>> 1. Please identify your current employer(s) and<br>
>>>> position(s).<br>
>><br>
>>>> 2. Please identify your declared country of primary<br>
>>>> residence (which may be the country to which you pay
taxes).<br>
>><br>
>>>> 3. Please identify the type(s) of work performed at #1<br>
>>>> above.<br>
>><br>
>>>> 4. Please list any financial relationship beyond /de<br>
>>>> minimus/ stock ownership you may have with any company that to
your<br>
>>>> knowledge has a financial relationship or contract with
ICANN.<br>
>><br>
>>>> 5. Do you believe you are participating in the GNSO
policy<br>
>>>> process as a representative of any individual or
entity,whether<br>
>>>> paid or unpaid? Please answer "yes" or "no." If the answer
is<br>
>>>> "yes," please provide the name of the represented individual
or<br>
>>>> entity. If professional ethical obligations prevent you
from<br>
>>>> disclosing this information, please so state.<br>
>><br>
>>>> 6. Please identify any other relevant arrangements,<br>
>>>> interests, or benefits as requested in the following two<br>
>>>> questions:<br>
>><br>
>>>> i. Do you have any type of material interest in ICANN<br>
>>>> GNSO policy development processes and outcomes? Please
answer<br>
>>>> "yes" or "no." If the answer is "yes," please describe the<br>
>>>> material interest in ICANN GNSO policy development processes
and<br>
>>>> outcomes.<br>
>><br>
>>>> ii. Are there any arrangements/agreements between you
and<br>
>>>> any other group, constituency or person(s) regarding your<br>
>>>> participation as a work team member? Please answer "yes" or
"no."<br>
>>>> If the answer is "yes," please describe the
arrangements/agreements<br>
>>>> and the name of the group, constituency, or person(s).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> *Excerpted from GNSO Council Operating Procedures, Section
4.5,<br>
>>>> Abstentions, page 15*<br>
>><br>
>>>> a. _Obligational Abstentions_<br>
>><br>
>>>> This category of abstentions results from conditions in which
a<br>
>>>> Councilor may find that he/she is unable to vote on a measure
due<br>
>>>> to a competing personal (e.g. religious), professional, or<br>
>>>> political interest that interferes with his/her ability to<br>
>>>> participate in the matter or where participation raises
ethical<br>
>>>> questions.<br>
>><br>
>>>> /_Disclaimer concerning the term "Conflict of Interest"_//:<br>
>>>> There are certain financial interests and, possibly,
incentives<br>
>>>> associated with GNSO actions that affect Internet domain
name<br>
>>>> policies. As they pertain to GNSO Council voting actions,
such<br>
>>>> interests are expected to be documented in a Councilor's
required<br>
>>>> Statement of Interest (see Chapter 5.0<br>
>>>>
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>>>> Sta<br>
>> tements_2>)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>> and do not require that the Councilor abstain from participating
and<br>
>>>> voting. //GNSO Councilors do not have a fiduciary
responsibility<br>
>>>> to act in the best interests of ICANN in discharging their<br>
>>>> responsibilities on the Council. While the deliberations
and<br>
>>>> decisions of ICANN are made in the interests of the global
Internet<br>
>>>> community as a whole, GNSO Councilors are understood, in
some<br>
>>>> cases, to represent the views of organizations and interest
groups<br>
>>>> that would materially benefit from policies recommended by
the<br>
>>>> GNSO. It is understood that Councilors are often employed by
or<br>
>>>> represent those affected parties and such relationships
could<br>
>>>> engender subsequent benefit to Councilors as individuals. As
a<br>
>>>> result of these special circumstances and to avoid confusion
with<br>
>>>> ICANN's Conflict of Interest Policy, which does not pertain to
GNSO<br>
>>>> Council matters, the term "Conflict of Interest" will not
pertain<br>
>>>> when a GNSO Councilor argues for and votes "Yes" or "No" on
a<br>
>>>> matter which, by virtue of that action, directly or
indirectly<br>
>>>> benefits that individual financially or economically; however,
that<br>
>>>> interpretation does not imply that circumstances cannot occur
in<br>
>>>> which a Councilor may perceive his/her situation as obligating
a<br>
>>>> formal abstention. /<br>
>><br>
>>>> A Councilor who believes that proceeding to vote on a motion
or<br>
>>>> action before the Council not only warrants, but requires,
his/her<br>
>>>> abstention and,thereby, recusal from deliberations, is
considered<br>
>>>> to be facing an obligational abstention. Although it is
not<br>
>>>> possible to draft a set of exhaustive conditions under
which<br>
>>>> obligational abstentions can arise, two examples are provided
by<br>
>>>> way of illustration:<br>
>><br>
>>>> _Case 1_: a Councilor (attorney by profession) is
representing a<br>
>>>> client in legal actionrelating to a matter before the Council
and,<br>
>>>> and as required by his/her professional code, must abstain
and,<br>
>>>> furthermore, such abstention should not be counted as a
negative<br>
>>>> vote. [Note: this type of situation requires the remedy
specified<br>
>>>> in Paragraph 4.5.3<br>
>>>>
<applewebdata://C6470B06-97BB-49EC-9D50-8234F30229D9#_4.5.3_Remedy_<br>
>>>> To_<br>
>> 1><br>
>>>> below].<br>
>><br>
>>>> _Case 2_: a Councilor is a paid consultant for a national<br>
>>>> political body that has a vested interest in a particular
motion<br>
>>>> before the Council. The Councilor is concerned that his/her
future<br>
>>>> income potential and ability to retain a consulting engagement
with<br>
>>>> the national body may be affected if he/she votes on the
measure.<br>
>>>> In such a case, the Councilor believes that the ethical course
of<br>
>>>> action is to abstain.<br>
>><br>
>>>> In the two examples above, personal or professional
obligations<br>
>>>> interfere with the Council member's ability to participate<br>
>>>> ethically; thus, requiring recusal from deliberations on the
matter<br>
>>>> and abstention from voting.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> From: "<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>"
<<a href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>>
Date: Monday, December 17,<br>
>>>> 2012 12:00 PM To: Mason Cole <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>> <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>>,<br>
>>>> "<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>
List" <<a href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>>
Subject: [council] Conflicts and<br>
>>>> the Draft reply to Fadi<br>
>><br>
>>>> Jonathan, et. al.,<br>
>><br>
>>>> Before I offer comment on Mason's draft and before we convene
on<br>
>>>> Thursday can I get some guidance on how those of us who have
a<br>
>>>> conflict on the matter of new gTLDs should conduct ourselves
or<br>
>>>> offer input?<br>
>><br>
>>>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>>>> John Berard Founder Credible Context 58 West Portal Avenue,<br>
>>>> #291 San Francisco, CA 94127 m: 415.845.4388<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [council] Draft
reply<br>
>>>> to Fadi From: Mason Cole <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>> <<a
href="mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:mcole@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>> Date:<br>
>>>> Fri, December 14, 2012 11:11 am To: "<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>
List"<br>
>>>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> ><<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
>>> <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>><br>
>><br>
>>>> Council colleagues --<br>
>><br>
>>>> I have taken the liberty of drafting a reply to Fadi's request
for<br>
>>>> Council advice on the BC/IPC request for more RPMs.<br>
>>>> Jonathan and I have spoken about a process from here and I am
happy<br>
>>>> to keep the pen for possible suggestions and edits.<br>
>>>> Speaking for myself, though I realize the holidays are fast<br>
>>>> approaching I would hope we can get a communication to Fadi<br>
>>>> expeditiously.<br>
>><br>
>>>> Many thanks --<br>
>><br>
>>>> Mason<br>
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