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Re: [council] Letter from Fadi Chehade (was FW: TMCH)
- To: Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [council] Letter from Fadi Chehade (was FW: TMCH)
- From: Mason Cole <mcole@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:57:03 -0800
- Cc: Jonathan Robinson <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- In-reply-to: <50C8C74D.2070607@seltzer.com>
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Yes, obviously I agree with Volker. That is the position of the registrars. I
look forward to the discussion on a reply.
On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
>
> I agree with Volker:
>
>>> It should therefore be our position that we refer back to the earlier
>>> policy decisions on these issues and reject any changes to these positions
>>> that have not come through an established policy making process. ICANN
>>> should not be subjected to more of these suddenly policy revisions in
>>> closed backroom meetings and rather rely on its established processes.
>
>
>
> --Wendy
>
> On 12/12/2012 12:47 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>> Thank-you Volker,
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe my job as chair is to ensure that the issues are raised, given a
>> fair hearing and then that an accurate view of the Council position or
>> positions is effectively communicated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your input is clearly helpful in getting to that point. Especially since
>> you sound like you have done your homework in looking back on previous
>> consideration of these issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> Others, please chime in. Especially with regard to any of the specifics
>> where you may feel we can respond to Fadi.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Volker Greimann
>> Sent: 12 December 2012 17:20
>> To: Jonathan Robinson
>> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [council] Letter from Fadi Chehade (was FW: TMCH)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Jonathan,
>>
>> I believe I have already clarified my position on these proposals. This
>> position has been further supported by a review of preceeding policy
>> decisions on these matters which have shown that not only are these mostly
>> matters of policy but also that the demands proposed by the strawman are to
>> a very large degree in direct contradiction to previous policy decisions.
>>
>> It should therefore be our position that we refer back to the earlier policy
>> decisions on these issues and reject any changes to these positions that
>> have not come through an established policy making process. ICANN should not
>> be subjected to more of these suddenly policy revisions in closed backroom
>> meetings and rather rely on its established processes.
>>
>> If that means that these proposals will not be ready for prime-time at the
>> time of the launch of the new TLDs, so be it. I cannot in my best
>> consciousness support caving in to speciality interests to the detriment of
>> the community of the whole, of registries, registrars and registrants.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Volker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> A reminder that this item is on our agenda for discussion next week. I
>> believe that we need to respond to Fadi in as constructive, well-considered
>> and comprehensive a manner as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Therefore, please can you personally consider the letter, the issues it
>> raises and ensure that these are discussed with your respective groups so
>> that you are in a position to discuss the Council’s response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any contributions to the list in advance of December 20th most welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noting:
>>
>>
>>
>> “I am seeking policy guidance from the GNSO Council on two items as part of
>> the next steps for the implementation of the TMCH, namely, the Strawman
>> Proposal and the IPC/BC proposal for limited defensive registrations”
>>
>>
>>
>> And
>>
>>
>>
>> “… a request from the New GTLD Program Committee’s April resolution where it
>> requested “the GNSO to consider whether additional work on defensive
>> registrations at the second level should be undertaken”(2012.04.10.NG2)”
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank-you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Fadi Chehade [mailto:fadi.chehade@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 04 December 2012 22:47
>> To: Jonathan Robinson
>> Cc: Margie Milam; David Olive
>> Subject: TMCH
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Jonathan,
>>
>>
>>
>> As reported in my recent blog on the Trademark Clearinghouse (see:
>> http://blog.icann.org/2012/11/a-follow-up-to-our-trademark-clearinghouse-meetings/),
>> the recent implementation TMCH related discussions led to the development
>> of a strawman model to address some of the proposed improvements requested
>> by the BC/IPC. I am very pleased with the efforts shown by the
>> participants in these discussions, as they reflect a willingness to explore
>> improvements to the TMCH and the rights protection mechanisms available in
>> new GTLDs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am seeking policy guidance from the GNSO Council on two items as part of
>> the next steps for the implementation of the TMCH, namely, the Strawman
>> Proposal and the IPC/BC proposal for limited defensive registrations. Each
>> of these documents are posted for public comment
>> (see:http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/tmch-strawman-30nov12-en.htm)
>> to allow the ICANN community the opportunity to comment on these proposals.
>> Specifically, policy guidance is sought on the portion that pertains to the
>> expansion of the scope of the trademark claims, although comments on any
>> aspect of the Strawman Model is welcome in the event the Council is
>> interested in broadening its response. The specific proposal is that:
>>
>>
>>
>> Where there are domain labels that have been found to be the subject of
>> previous abusive registrations (e.g., as a result of a UDRP or court
>> proceeding), a limited number (up to 50) of these may be added to a
>> Clearinghouse record (i.e., these names would be mapped to an existing
>> record for which the trademark has already been verified by the
>> Clearinghouse). Attempts to register these as domain names will generate
>> the Claims notices as well as the notices to the rights holder.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not included in the Strawman Model is the IPC/BC proposal for a limited
>> preventative registrations. In general, there was not support among
>> non-IPC/BC participants for solutions to the issue of second level defensive
>> registrations among the participants in the TMCH meetings. After hearing
>> concerns regarding this issue, members of the IPC/BC provided a description
>> of a preventative mechanism, the “Limited Preventative Registration,” which
>> has also been published for public comment. As this issue is relevant to
>> a request from the New GTLD Program Committee’s April resolution where it
>> requested “the GNSO to consider whether additional work on defensive
>> registrations at the second level should be undertaken”(2012.04.10.NG2), I
>> am seeking GNSO Council feedback on this IPC/BC proposal as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be ideal if the GNSO Council could take up these issues at its
>> December meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, addressing some of the criticisms on the process used by Staff in
>> convening these meetings, I hope that you can appreciate that Staff is not
>> circumventing the GNSO processes. The Strawman Model and my blog posting
>> always clarified that this request to the GNSO Council was coming. One of
>> my goals as CEO is to enhance collaboration in the ICANN community as it
>> tackles difficult issues. I truly believe that the development of strawman
>> proposals on this and other issues can be a useful tool to inform policy and
>> implementation discussions. I hope that you will consider this request in
>> that light.
>>
>>
>>
>> We look forward to the Council’s reply to this request.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Personal Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Fadi Chehade
>>
>> President and CEO
>>
>> ICANN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx +1 617.863.0613
> Policy Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
> Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School Information Society Project
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