Re: [council] URS follow-up

[Mason Cole <mcole@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I concur with Jeff as well.


On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:20 PM, <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> All,
> 
> As I did at the wrap-up meeting, I must vote with Jeff on this.  If
> prioritization is a priority (pun intended), this is still a make-work
> item.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John Berard
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [council] URS follow-up
> From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, October 25, 2012 1:11 pm
> To: Thomas Rickert <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Robinson
> <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "'Petter Rindforth'" <petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
> "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> All,
> 
> I am not sure why we are giving this request any credibility.  Sorry for
> my bluntness, but no one answered my questions during the GNSO session
> or afterwards.  We seem to be conceding to ICANN that a team is
> necessary to revise URS policy even before seeing any of the results of
> the RFI which we now know there is at least one bidder that will propose
> doing the URS in accordance with the current policies laid out in the
> Guidebook for the price expected.
> 
> To concede now that policy work needs to be done is conceding that the
> ICANN is in fact held hostage by the current vendors providing existing
> UDRP services.  If we do indeed need to develop new policies around the
> URS (which at this point in time, there is no evidence that this needs
> to be done), I think we should address it then.  But aren’t we putting
> the cart before the horse?
> 
> All of those caveats aside, if we are forced to set up a group, you can
> count on my participation.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thomas Rickert
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:17 PM
> To: Jonathan Robinson
> Cc: 'Petter Rindforth'; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [council] URS follow-up
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to  join this, too!
> 
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
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> 
> Am 22.10.2012 um 22:35 schrieb Jonathan Robinson
> <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
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> 
> Many thanks Peter. 
> 
> 
> 
> Good to have you on board for this and other items.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Petter Rindforth
> Sent: 22 October 2012 00:38
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Jonathan Robinson
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: URS follow-up
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Jonathan and All new Colleagues,
> 
> 
> 
> Just to express my interest in participate in the further work with URS
> (as it seems we now have to).
> 
> 
> 
> I have experience as an .xxx Arbitrator and also created the Swedish ADR
> Accelerated Proceeding, so I hope I can therewith add some ideas  - and
> questions  - in order to have a fast as possible final solution
> regarding the URS.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Petter
> 
> 
> 
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> www.fenixlegal.euThank youOn 21 okt 2012 23:44 "Jonathan Robinson"
> <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> 
> 
> Please be aware of the following note from Olof Nordling when we next
> consider the URS and associated issues.
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> From: Olof Nordling [mailto:olof.nordling@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 21 October 2012 15:33
> To: jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Kurt Pritz
> Subject: URS follow-up
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
> Congratulations to your recent election as GNSO Council Chair and many
> thanks to you and to all Council members for the constructive
> discussions we had on URS matters on 18 October! The willingness to
> consider a drafting team to address URS implementation questions and
> issues is much appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> The subsequent URS session the same day in Toronto proved most
> interesting. In addition to presentations from NAF and WIPO as 
> potential URS providers, we had the advantage of a very late addition to
> the agenda – a presentation from a “new entrant”, Intersponsive,
> intending to respond to the RFI with a proposal within the target fee,
> although with some adjustments of the URS provisions. Also NAF clarified
> that they would be able to stay within the target fee, provided
> reasonable limitations could be established to the current translation
> requirements and to the number of domain names covered by a single
> complaint.
> 
> 
> 
> I realize that you and other Council members couldn’t attend this
> session, as it partially overlapped with the GNSO Council session, but
> the recording is available at
> http://audio.icann.org/meetings/toronto2012/urs-18oct12-en.mp3.
> Furthermore, there are a number of relevant documents posted on our
> recently established URS web page at
> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/urs, notably contributions from
> NAF, WIPO and CAC, with considerations, proposals, some costing aspects
> and, most importantly, questions needing to be resolved (the NAF
> contribution is of particular interest in that regard).
> 
> 
> 
> I believe these recent developments further clarifies the need for a
> drafting team to establish realistic implementation measures based on
> the URS text. I look forward to further contacts with you and the
> Council on this matter in the near future.
> 
> 
> 
> Very best regards
> 
> Olof
> 
> 
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