Re: [council] [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

OK, thanks for your feedback everyone. I have asked Olivier to provide details 
on what it is ALAC intends. If this is just an open session, then fine, anyone 
can go and why are we even discussing it? If this is something else, then what 
is it exactly and how is the GNSO being asked to get involved?

I will update the Council when I have an answer.

Thanks,

Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France
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Head of Domain Operations
Group NBT

Le 8 févr. 2012 à 00:36, Mason Cole a écrit :

> I agree it's generally outside the scope of the council. 
> 
> I do think however the idea of trying to control or eradicate content by 
> means of Internet intermediaries (ISPs, registrars, registries, ad service 
> providers, payment processors, etc.) is of interest to many of us who 
> participate actively in ICANN.  Indeed this is part of the SOPA/PIPA bills' 
> designs.  So should that legislation fail in the US, the community might 
> anticipate further attention being directed toward ICANN as a means of 
> achieving that agenda.  So we may do well to be educated, even if there's 
> little for us to act on as it relates to the legislation itself.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue 2/7/2012 11:00 AM
> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Stéphane Van Gelder
> Subject: [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> 
> While a session on SOPA (and perhaps also PIPA, the Senate version of a 
> similar bill) might be helpful to the community, especially if it focuses on 
> aspects that would affect management, expansion and/or security of the DNS, I 
> agree it would seem somewhat outside the Council's scope. Question whether, 
> as a general topic, it is within the GNSO community's range of direct 
> interests - and depending on what the session covers, it might well be.
> 
> I'd suggest not adding it to the Council's agenda, but agreeing that such a 
> session could be of interest to individual GNSO SGs, Cs and participants.
> 
> FWIW it's not clear where either the US Senate or House of Representatives 
> will go with the bills. Some co-sponsors have either pulled out or have 
> stated publicly that much needs to be reconsidered, while at least one major 
> sponsor (Senator Leahy from Vermont) seems to want to keep the bills alive, 
> with possible modifications. There will be lots of discussions, hearings and 
> negotiations between now and any formal action - and it's likely the DNS 
> sections of the original bill will be dropped altogether or be drastically 
> changed - so I'm not sure how discussing a previous version of the 
> legislation would be entirely helpful (unless a new version of one or both 
> bills is out in advance sufficiently of our Costa Rica meeting to enable 
> folks to familiarize themselves with it).
> 
> Cheers
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mary W S Wong
> Professor of Law
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
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> USA
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> >>>
> From:   Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>      
> To:      "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   2/7/2012 11:57 AM      
> Subject:        [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA 
> Discussions     
> 
> Councillors,
> 
> Please find below an email chain starting with a message from the ALAC Chair. 
> Thanks to Wolf for keeping me honest and reminding me that I had forgotten to 
> copy the Council here ;)
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> Le 7 févr. 2012 à 16:06, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> 
> > Stéphane,
> >
> > are you going to inform the council about Olivier's request?
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Wolf-Ulrich
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 11:01
> > An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
> > Cc: Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx; gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
> > Betreff: Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> >
> > I agree with Jeff 100%
> >
> > Stéphane
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 2 févr. 2012 à 22:27, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> >
> >>
> >> Jeff, I personally agree - with the knowledge I have so far.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless I expect different views from councillors. And I think the 
> >> GNSO should be prepared just in case such a forum is going to be organized 
> >> in Costa Rica.
> >>
> >> The ccNSO chair has answered to Olivier's request in favour. I think the 
> >> GNSO chair should send an answer, too, based on GNSO discussions.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Wolf-Ulrich
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2012 22:11
> >> An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Betreff: RE: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> >>
> >> I have been keeping quiet about this on other lists, but no I do not 
> >> believe this is an issue for the GNSO Council to discuss.  This is a 
> >> matter that effects national law and would represent a complete side track 
> >> during the weekend from official GNSO business.
> >>
> >> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> >> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
> >>
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> >> Behalf Of KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:06 PM
> >> To: gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [gnso-chairs] WG: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I wonder whether the GNSO could refrain from such a forum in San José. Is 
> >> SOPA (and PIPA) effecting our policy work or not? I think a GNSO 
> >> representative should participate in such a discussion.
> >> Should we put this on the GNSO weekend agenda in San José, too?
> >> Maybe there is interest in discussing the item with the GAC ?!
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Wolf-Ulrich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: owner-soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:owner-soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Olivier MJ 
> >> Crepin-Leblond
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2012 08:27
> >> An: soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff
> >> Betreff: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear SO/AC Chairs,
> >>
> >> a recent discussion on an ALAC call led to the question whether the ICANN 
> >> community might be interested in holding a session in San José, to discuss 
> >> the aspects of the SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and how it might affect 
> >> ICANN policies that were reached through consensus.
> >>
> >> I am writing to you all to find out of this is something which your 
> >> community might be interested in.
> >> As we are currently finalising schedules, it would be helpful to find out 
> >> your community's views ASAP.
> >>
> >> Warmest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> --
> >> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> >> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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