[council] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from GNSO Council Weekly Meeting Room 17 November 2011

[Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Councillors,

Please find the Adobe Connect Chat transcript from the GNSO Council meeting on 
17 November 2011.

>  Marika Konings:GNSO Council Meeting - 17 November 2011
>  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:Hi all, im waiting operator call me
>  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:thanks . Im here now
>  Jeff Neuman:Just talked to Mason...he just landed and will join in a
>couple of minutes
>  Wendy Seltzer:Joy is just dialing in
>  Mason Cole:Hi everyone
>  Bill Drake:Can I ask CSG colleagues: were you represented on the team
>that developed this?
>  Yoav Keren:Hi all, sorry for delay. Had a personal unplanned delay.
>  Zahid Jamil:Thanks Bill, having that carification would be helpful
>  Zahid Jamil:We should not let bottom up processes be defetated -
>hopefullly the slight clarification can help
>  Bill Drake:@Zahid it's fair to say nobody wants to defeat bottom up etc
>etc.  But there's value in not doing everything in silos.  The idea is
>coordination between levels, not one precludes the other.
>  Alan Greenberg:The GNSO is in general, SO opaque that efforts such as
>the ones described in the charter can only help.
>  Zahid Jamil:I support coordination  - I would also support - the TF -
>just need clarification to allay fears in our constituency
>  Wendy Seltzer:I keep dropping off Adobe
>  Jeff Neuman:So Zahid, can you guys work this out and fix it in the next
>few weeks?
>  Zahid Jamil:I think a one line amendment saying exaclty what Bill
>mentioned and I agreed with should work
>  Jeff Neuman:Bill?
>  Jeff Neuman:Sorry..Bill...do you agree?
>  Bill Drake:@Jeff I don't see what's broken that needs fixing over the
>next couple weeks.  Zahid asked if this precludes CSG getting funding.
>Can't see how it does. So what do we need to do?
>  Bill Drake:???
>  Bill Drake:We really in procedural blue skies here...
>  Wolf Knoben:I abstain
>  Bill Drake:But nobody has said what will be accomplished/done with the
>deferral....?
>  rafik dammak:effort started more than 2 years now, well lets take more
>time...
>  Jeff Neuman:@Bill - I would like to see Zahid propose the clarification
>to the motion/charter and to see your input on that
>  Jeff Neuman:We need a seconder on both motions
>  rafik dammak:@jeff joy is the seconder
>  John Berard:who is the second on Mary's motion?
>  rafik dammak:@jeff sorry r u talking about the urdp motion?
>  Jeff Neuman:@Rafik...yes on udrp
>  Liz Gasster:@ Jeff and Bill, Zahid, John -- staff can help draft a
>revised motion unless you would like the drafting team to revise the
>charter - in that case a motion could direct the DT to do that
>  Liz Gasster:on Outreach
>  Joy:I am seconding Mary's motion
>  Alan Greenberg:RE: PEDNR, that being said, the reference in the 3rd
>resolve would effectively be no-op and therefore not invalid (it just
>would not require any work).
>  Zahid Jamil:@Liz re Outreach- I would be happy to join that effort and
>encourage you to to do so.
>  Marika Konings:I've just added it in Adobe Connect
>  Bill Drake:@Liz I would think we should hear first from CSG something
>about they'd want before geting staff into revising
>  Liz Gasster:@ Zahid - a motion to reconvene the DT or requests
>"interested Council members" to revise the charter with staff?  TRying to
>figure out the exact preferred next step you all would like
>  Zahid Jamil:Any review needs to be olistic, in context and should not
>disrupt the new gTLD launch
>  Zahid Jamil:@ Liz - reconvening may work - I will get back to you on
>that after discussing with BC
>  Bill Drake:@Zahid, so is your stance now that we need to redo the whole
>charter, rather than just the motion?
>  Zahid Jamil:no - I would rather we simply amend this motion/charter
>rather than do a grueling do over
>  Zahid Jamil:but need to share suggestion with BC
>  Zahid Jamil:ie share Liz'a suggestion
>  Bill Drake:Suggestion to "revise the charter with staff"?
>  Zahid Jamil:suggestion for reconvening - but would suggest we try and
>see if we can go with her first option of working with staff to reword
>  Wolf Knoben:@Bill, Zahid - I'd like to amend the motion including
>elements improving the charter
>  David Taylor:Freindly amendment RESOLVED further, the GNSO Council
>requests a new Issue Report on the current state of all rights protection
>mechanisms implemented for both existing and new gTLDs, including but not
>limited to, the UDRP and URS, should be prepared with staff commencing
>the drafting of this report eighteen (18) months after the publication of
>at least a 100 UDRP or URS that cover at least 10 new gTLDs.  Such report
>should be delivered to the GNSO Council within four (4) months of that
>trigger date.
>  Zahid Jamil:@ Wolf - maybe we could work with BIll on doing that with
>staff help as offeered by Liz - may avoid a redo
>  Alan Greenberg:really should say 18 months PROVIDING the thresholds are
>passed.
>  Wolf Knoben:@Zahid - yes, I join the effort. Maybe Liz could take the
>initiative??
>  Julie Hedlund:@Wolf and @Zahid I can support that work on outreach.  I
>supported the DT for the charter
>  Zahid Jamil:@Liz - maybe we could initiate a list with some suggested
>languages from you, joining in Bill, Wendy, John, Wolf , Jeff and me and
>any others that may wish to join
>  Zahid Jamil:Thanks Julie
>  Julie Hedlund:@Zahid I'll take the lead
>  Julie Hedlund:@Zahid to clarify is this a list of revisions to the
>charter that would be included in a new motion?
>  Julie Hedlund:perhaps to be presented for the next Council meeting?
>  Zahid Jamil:@ yes and yes
>  Zahid Jamil:@Julie yes and yed
>  Julie Hedlund:Great -- @Zahid -- thank you.  I'll start it up
>  Joy:i would be happy to assist
>  Julie Hedlund:@Joy -- to clarify on a revised outreach motion?
>  Joy:oh sorry = i thought you were on Jeff's motion - apologies
>  Wendy Seltzer:Is the audio stream down?
>  Julie Hedlund:@Joy -- thanks it's gets confusing!
>  Marika Konings:@Wendy - the line got disconnected, but they are trying
>to reconnect
>  Wendy Seltzer:thanks Marika, several of our members are listening
>  Marika Konings:@Wendy, we are working on it, but there seem to be some
>issues with the line
>  Marika Konings:Apologies for the inconvenience
>  Wendy Seltzer:in queue, keep dropping out of adobe
>  Joy:Mason there is some background noise - it sounds like you are in a
>chime store
>  Mason Cole:Oh, sorry Joy....I guess that means I can "chime in"???
>  Mason Cole:terrible joke, sorry
>  Joy::-) oh very good!
>  Wolf Knoben:Margie, could you send a copy of your presentation to the
>list? Thanks
>  Bill Drake:Apparently the audiocast is down again
>  Zahid Jamil:@ Marika - I think thats a good suggestion
>  Marika Konings:@Bill - we are still working on it, but it looks like
>the line is back up again?
>  Wendy Seltzer:thanks, Marika, confirmed
>  David Taylor:@Alan: agree with your suggestion. Thanks.
>  Alan Greenberg:@David - glad to help.
>  Zahid Jamil:Thanks Stephane
>  Wendy Seltzer:Did we do better timezone rotation of these new dates?
>  Wendy Seltzer:Please re-send the dates..
>  Glen de saint Gery:Yes I will resend the Council dates and times
>  Joy:thanks Stephane
>  David Taylor:Thanks all
>  Jeff Neuman:thanks


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