Re: [council] Informal conversation

[Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

I would like to join the group.

Best,

Rafik

2011/10/28 Thomas Rickert <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> Jeff, all,
> I volunteer to participate in this group.
>
> Best,
> Thomas
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> Am 28.10.2011 um 00:15 schrieb Neuman, Jeff:
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>
> Thanks Joy.  We have decided to form a small group of Councilors to work on
> these issues.  I have volunteered to lead the up. We did ask the GAC several
> times if they wanted to work with us in some form of group, but they have
> declined our invitation.  Therefore, after the letter is sent, we will try
> to work these issues on our own in a relatively quick time frame and after
> approval from the Council, we will share our thoughts with the GAC.  They
> seem to prefer this course of action.
>
> We have also asked for volunteers and Glen has volunteered to set up a
> mailing list.  If you would like to volunteer for this group, please let
> Glen know.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Joy Liddicoat
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:29 PM
> To: 'Stéphane Van Gelder'; Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [council] Informal conversation
>
>
> Hi - my apologies for missing this meeting - it was 12am onwards here.
> Thanks for your work on this Stephane and Mary's idea of some mechanism(s)
> to help build relationships is a good one - whether as observer or liaison
> point. Or perhaps a standing item on the GNSO agenda could be: GAC - with a
> GAC rep/Chair given the opportunity to attend on specific topics of
> GNSO/GAC
> working methods?
> A practical suggestion on the IOC Red Cross matter: GAC makes a fair point
> on the intra-GAC issues (and, as Thomas says, GNSO councillors also face
> workload challenges). Could we suggest a small GNSO GAC working group on
> this specific issue? The group could take forward some of the issues raised
> and, perhaps, work together to suggest options/pathways forward for the two
> groups to consider?
>
> Joy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
> Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 5:49 a.m.
> To: Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [council] Informal conversation
>
>
> Good point Mary, I forgot the topic of a liaison. They say they can't do
> that, but actually suggest the reverse, i.e. that we send them a liaison!
>
> An interesting suggestion.
>
> Stéphane
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>
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> Le 27 oct. 2011 à 16:39, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> Hmm ... isn't this one very good reason why we ought to have GNSO-GAC
>
> liaisons?
>
>
> Also, while I understand the difficulty the GAC may have with nit having
>
> one or two people represent the GAC formally, should we consider inviting
> them to appoint an observer or liaison to the task force or WG that Jeff is
> leading?
>
>
> Thanks for the prompt action and reporting back, Stéphane.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
> "Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>"
>
> <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> All,
>
>
> As we discussed during today's wrap-up, I had an informal conversation
>
> with the GAC.
>
>
> I passed along the message that there was disappointment at the GAC's
>
> apparent lack of desire for a common effort on the IOC and RC names. The
> answer was that the GAC remains extremely challenged when it comes to
> participating in joint efforts of this kind. There are workload issues
> first
> and foremost for government reps, but also because of the unique nature of
> the GAC it is difficult for any GAC member to participate effectively.
>
>
> The point was also made to me that we tend to assume that when we put
>
> something out, either on our mailing list or our website, that is enough
> for
> the GAC to be aware of it. I was told that it is not so, and that there is
> no substitute for direct communication. So in that regard, it sounds like
> our discussions in today's wrap-up about being seen to be more constructive
> and more proactive are spot on.
>
>
> With that in mind, I would suggest that we perhaps want to send the draft
>
> letter on the IOC and RC names anyway. The idea being to show that we have
> done some thinking about this issue as well (someone made that point during
> the wrap-up, I forget who so apologies).
>
>
> Also, I was told that unless we write to the GAC to tell them about the
>
> announcement made by ICANN and the registrars and published on the GNSO
> mailing list, they don't know about it. As this is a registrar specific
> issue, it is perhaps not for the GNSO as a whole to mention. But it is
> perhaps worth thinking about.
>
>
> The main takeaway I got from the conversation is that we should look to
>
> improve the way we communicate with the outside world (this is not
> something
> I was told, it is my own conclusion).
>
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
>
> Get home safe everyone. Enjoyed working with you this week.
>
>
> Stéphane
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