Re: [council] Informal conversation

["Mason Cole" <mcole@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would at some point when things are not so tense suggest that we politely 
remind the GAC that the GNSO has similar workload challenges. The two bodies 
need to commit to cooperating on a two-way street if the GAC has increased 
policy influence expectations. To be clear I am not suggesting anything unduly 
impolite -- I just want the GAC to be better educated about the details of 
various groups' work and concerns. I believe that precisely is what led to the 
GAC's confrontation over the weekend. 

Mason


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To: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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Sent: Thu Oct 27 10:17:26 2011
Subject: Re: [council] Informal conversation


Stéphane,
thanks for having dealt with this already! 

I think that the suggestion that we send someone is most interesting and we 
should make a decision whether or not to grab this opportunity to open up an 
additional communication chanel in a timely fashion given the current difficult 
situation. I would very much welcome if we accepted the offer.

Thomas
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Am 27.10.2011 um 16:48 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder 
<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>:

> 
> Good point Mary, I forgot the topic of a liaison. They say they can't do 
> that, but actually suggest the reverse, i.e. that we send them a liaison!
> 
> An interesting suggestion…
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> Le 27 oct. 2011 à 16:39, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> 
>> Hmm ... isn't this one very good reason why we ought to have GNSO-GAC 
>> liaisons? 
>> 
>> Also, while I understand the difficulty the GAC may have with nit having one 
>> or two people represent the GAC formally, should we consider inviting them 
>> to appoint an observer or liaison to the task force or WG that Jeff is 
>> leading?
>> 
>> Thanks for the prompt action and reporting back, Stéphane.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Mary
>> 
>> "Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>" 
>> <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> As we discussed during today's wrap-up, I had an informal conversation with 
>> the GAC.
>> 
>> I passed along the message that there was disappointment at the GAC's 
>> apparent lack of desire for a common effort on the IOC and RC names. The 
>> answer was that the GAC remains extremely challenged when it comes to 
>> participating in joint efforts of this kind. There are workload issues first 
>> and foremost for government reps, but also because of the unique nature of 
>> the GAC it is difficult for any GAC member to participate effectively.
>> 
>> The point was also made to me that we tend to assume that when we put 
>> something out, either on our mailing list or our website, that is enough for 
>> the GAC to be aware of it. I was told that it is not so, and that there is 
>> no substitute for direct communication. So in that regard, it sounds like 
>> our discussions in today's wrap-up about being seen to be more constructive 
>> and more proactive are spot on.
>> 
>> With that in mind, I would suggest that we perhaps want to send the draft 
>> letter on the IOC and RC names anyway. The idea being to show that we have 
>> done some thinking about this issue as well (someone made that point during 
>> the wrap-up, I forget who so apologies).
>> 
>> Also, I was told that unless we write to the GAC to tell them about the 
>> announcement made by ICANN and the registrars and published on the GNSO 
>> mailing list, they don't know about it. As this is a registrar specific 
>> issue, it is perhaps not for the GNSO as a whole to mention. But it is 
>> perhaps worth thinking about.
>> 
>> The main takeaway I got from the conversation is that we should look to 
>> improve the way we communicate with the outside world (this is not something 
>> I was told, it is my own conclusion).
>> 
>> Hope this is helpful.
>> 
>> Get home safe everyone. Enjoyed working with you this week.
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
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