AW: AW: [council] SO and AC Chairs meeting with Rod before SF

[<KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't think it's the council's message rather that one of some council 
members. I wonder if this is the way how we provide guidance to the council 
leadership to act and represent the council. I wonder also whether other AC/SOs 
have this kind of scruple.
My suggestion:
- communicate to ICANN that the council has some reservations regarding this 
meeting
- if the meeting takes place you should attend
- provide a comprehensive report to the GNSO weekend session

In addition I think it's necessary to step into a broader discussion on the 
role and competencies of the council leadership. This should be done in context 
of discussing the councils scope and role (see e.g. JAS WG chartering). With 
the GNSO improvements activities we've implemented a lot of detailed structural 
measures but some of that basic framework is still missing.
 


Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich 


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Januar 2011 01:28
An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: AW: [council] SO and AC Chairs meeting with Rod before SF

Thanks Wolf.

My personal opinion is that it's a mistake for the GNSO to exclude itself from 
this kind of meeting. In any community and environment, building relationships 
between people does tend to help bridge differences.

It's actually more convenient for me not to have to take 2 extra days away from 
home to come to SF early, but I would have done so had the Council been willing 
to look upon this initiative as one that was about putting some oil in the 
works. That does not appear to be the case. Councillors from both houses seem 
to have worries about transparency. I do not know whether there will be 
transcription at the meeting. As I understand it, it is just an informal 
get-together and there is no formal agenda planned at all, so I would not 
expect there to be.

Once again, if someone from Staff can shed more light on this meeting, that may 
be helpful. As it is, I think the message from the Council is that you do not 
want me to go, and I have communicated this to Staff.

Thanks,

Stéphane

Le 19 janv. 2011 à 21:35, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Stéphane,
> 
> I personally don't have anything against these type of meetings helping to 
> improve the future communication between the AC/Sos. On the one hand 2 days 
> seem a bit long for that purpose. On the other hand during these days short 
> ly before the ICANN meeting the council needs your "presence, too, since by 
> experience the council discussion on agenda items, motions etc. is getting 
> more and more momentum.
> Please take this into consideration  and let the organizers know.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im 
> Auftrag von Stéphane Van Gelder
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Januar 2011 16:51
> An: GNSO Council
> Betreff: [council] SO and AC Chairs meeting with Rod before SF
> 
> 
> Councillors,
> 
> FYI, Rod is inviting the SO and AC Chairs to a 2-day meeting prior to the 
> ICANN SF meeting. The idea is to have informal discussions and to help the SO 
> and AC Chairs get to know each other better.
> 
> I have not agreed to going yet, but have asked what the cost of the meeting 
> would be, which part of the ICANN meeting this would come from, whether the 
> meeting would be official?
> 
> I am told the additional costs would be negligible and part of the ICANN 
> meeting budget.
> 
> If anyone is opposed to me going, please say so.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stéphane