Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Jeff. Glen, please update the wiki with this amended motion. Thanks.

Stéphane

Le 11 janv. 2011 à 16:35, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :

> I agree with this and consider it friendly.
> 
> Thanks! 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
> Vice President, Law & Policy 
> NeuStar, Inc. 
> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> 
>  
> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: Neuman, Jeff 
> Cc: GNSO Council <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Subject: Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion 
>  
> Sorry, I missed the second reference to a one-pager. This should read :
> 
> 
> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council recommends that a concise summary of 
> the WG Guidelines be drafted by ICANN Staff, following approval of the GNSO 
> Working Guidelines by the GNSO Council, in order to serve as a primer to the 
> full document  for potential WG members. The summary should be approved by 
> the PPSC before being submitted to the GNSO Council.
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> Le 11 janv. 2011 à 16:25, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
> 
>> Thanks Jeff.
>> 
>> So how about this as the full additional Resolve:
>> 
>> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council recommends that a concise summary of 
>> the WG Guidelines be drafted by ICANN Staff, following approval of the GNSO 
>> Working Guidelines by the GNSO Council, in order to serve as a primer to the 
>> full document  for potential WG members. The one-page summary should be 
>> approved by the PPSC before being submitted to the GNSO Council.
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> Le 11 janv. 2011 à 16:18, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>> 
>>> I believe that this would be friendly if we can remove the word "one-page" 
>>> and replace with something like "short and concise.". Totally understand 
>>> and agree with the concept, but the words "one-page" may be too limiting. 
>>> If you can accept that, I will gladly accept the rest as friendly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
>>> Vice President, Law & Policy 
>>> NeuStar, Inc. 
>>> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 09:58 AM
>>> To: Neuman, Jeff 
>>> Cc: 'GNSO Council' <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> Subject: Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion 
>>>  
>>> Thanks Jeff.
>>> 
>>> That being the case, I would like to propose an amendment to your motion.
>>> 
>>> I would propose that a 3rd resolved clause be added stating the following:
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council recommends that a one-page summary 
>>> of the WG Guidelines be drafted by ICANN Staff in order to serve as a 
>>> primer to the full document  for potential WG members. The one-page summary 
>>> should be approved by the PPSC before being submitted to the GNSO Council.
>>> 
>>> I hope you can consider this amendment friendly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Stéphane
>>> 
>>> Le 10 janv. 2011 à 17:32, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Stephane,
>>>>  
>>>> I think you have some good points and I completely understand the notion 
>>>> of having too much to read for what seems like fairly simple concepts.  
>>>> The PPSC did not discuss this issue and I am not sure to what extent the 
>>>> WG-WT discussed. 
>>>>  
>>>> However, I believe that once the principles are approved by the Council, 
>>>> that we (the Council) can direct the staff to draft up a shorter summary 
>>>> (with encouragement to read the full report).  I suppose the PPSC could 
>>>> review the summary to make sure it is in line with the final report.  We 
>>>> could also when it comes time to approve the principles in our motion 
>>>> direct that staff hold a short session at the start of every Working Group 
>>>> to educate Working Group members on the basics for those interested.
>>>>  
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
>>>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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>>>> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx] 
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:17 AM
>>>> To: Neuman, Jeff
>>>> Cc: 'GNSO Council'
>>>> Subject: Re: [council] Final Working Group Work Team Report & Motion
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>  
>>>> Because these WG guidelines are intended for use by WG members (see 1.3) I 
>>>> find it surprising that they would be expected to read a 35 page document 
>>>> in order to get a grasp on the way ICANN recommends they should set-up and 
>>>> run their WG.
>>>>  
>>>> I do not find it realistic to expect volunteer members of a WG, not all of 
>>>> which would necessarily be very clued on up ICANN processes (nor should we 
>>>> expect them to be if we are to encourage broader community participation), 
>>>> to have to tackle such a report. As such, I fear that what we will end up 
>>>> seeing happening is that people do not read these guidelines and do not 
>>>> profit from them.
>>>>  
>>>> With regards to this, has the idea of producing a one-page summary of the 
>>>> guidelines been discussed by the PPSC at all? The idea would be to have 
>>>> some kind of WG guideline "primer" which could help people understand what 
>>>> is expected of them as part of a GNSO WG.
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>  
>>>> Stéphane
>>>> 
>>>> Le 2 janv. 2011 à 03:53, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>>  
>>>> Please find enclosed the Final Working Group Work Team report as approved 
>>>> by the Policy Process Steering Committee.   I am also attaching for the 
>>>> Council’s review a redline of the report that compares the Final to the 
>>>> Interim Report that came out prior to the Brussels meeting.  The changes 
>>>> reflect public comments to the Interim report plus changes made as a 
>>>> result of questions raised by the PPSC as addressed by the Working Group 
>>>> Work Team.  All of the constituencies/Stakeholder Groups represented on 
>>>> the PPSC approved the final report with the exception of the Business 
>>>> Constituency, who did not vote.   The ALAC representative, who does not 
>>>> officially get a vote, also expressed his approval of the report.
>>>>  
>>>> A non-official informal poll was taken within the PPSC as to whether we 
>>>> should recommend to the Council that it put the final report out for 
>>>> public comment before review/approval given the changes that have been 
>>>> made since the last time the report was out for comment.  The Registries, 
>>>> IPC and ISP representatives believe the GNSO Council should place the 
>>>> report out for comment; the Registrars did not think it was necessary, but 
>>>> did not object; the BC did not vote; and the NCSG opposed making this 
>>>> recommendation to the Council (believing that the Council should decide 
>>>> for itself what it wanted to do).
>>>>  
>>>> The motion I present below acknowledges receipt of report and requests 
>>>> that the report go out for comment (should the council elect to put it out 
>>>> for comment).
>>>>  
>>>> I would be happy to answer any questions.
>>>>  
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  
>>>> Motion to Acknowledge the Receipt of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines and 
>>>> Initiate a Public Comment Period
>>>>  
>>>> WHEREAS, in October 2008, the GNSO Council established a framework (see 
>>>> GNSO Council Improvements Implementation Plan; 
>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-implementation-plan-16oct08.pdf)
>>>>  for implementing the various GNSO Improvements identified and approved by 
>>>> the ICANN Board of Directors on 26 June 2008 
>>>> (http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-26jun08.htm#_Toc76113182 
>>>> <http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-26jun08.htm>);
>>>>  
>>>> WHEREAS, that framework included the formation, in January 2009, of two 
>>>> Steering Committees, the Operations Steering Committee (OSC) and thePolicy 
>>>> Process Steering Committee (PPSC), to charter and coordinate the efforts 
>>>> of five community work teams in developing specific recommendations to 
>>>> implement the improvements;
>>>>  
>>>> WHEREAS, the PPSC established two work teams, including the Working Group 
>>>> Work Team (WG WT), which was chartered to develop a new GNSO Working Group 
>>>> Model that improves inclusiveness, improves effectiveness, and improves 
>>>> efficiency;
>>>>  
>>>> WHEREAS, the WG WT completed its deliberations and forwarded the GNSO 
>>>> Working Group Guidelines to the PPSC on 1 November 2010;
>>>>  
>>>> WHEREAS, the PPSC reviewed and approved the GNSO Working Group Guidelines 
>>>> on 20 December 2010 [includelink to GNSO Working Group Guidelines once 
>>>> posted]
>>>> and forwarded the report to the GNSO Council on 30 December 2010;
>>>>  
>>>> NOW THEREFORE, BE IT:
>>>>  
>>>> RESOLVED that the GNSO Council acknowledges receipt of the GNSO Working 
>>>> Group Guidelines as delivered by the PPSC and directs ICANN Staff to 
>>>> commence a twenty-one (21) day public comment period on the GNSO Working 
>>>> Group Guidelines.
>>>>  
>>>> RESOLVED FURTHER that the GNSO Council shall take action on the GNSO 
>>>> Working Group Guidelines as soon as possible after the end of the public 
>>>> comment period.
>>>>  
>>>>  
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>>>> <GNSO WG Guidelines - FINAL - 10 December 
>>>> 2010.pdf><GNSO_WG_Guideline_Revised_Final_Redline_10 December 2010.doc>
>>>>  
>>> 
>> 
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