[council] RE: AW: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

As long as the SGs are supportive of this approach, I would be fine with it.  
My concern has been that the SGs and their respective members were being force 
to compact their implementation of the process in a manner that would not allow 
enough time.  My first reaction when I heard indirectly about the extension was 
to assume that the deadline for GNSO endorsements would be extended to 
correspond to the application period extension so I tested that assumption was 
told that was incorrect.  I found that unacceptable because it seriously 
compromised the process we had approved.

 

Chuck

 

From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 8:20 AM
To: KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Gomes, Chuck; marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx; 
glen@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cdigangi@xxxxxxxx; 
sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx; Harris, Anthony; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: AW: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a 
Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010

 

Wolf's suggestion makes sense to me. 

 

Steve Metalitz

Please pardon typos and tone  Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 16, 2010, at 4:26 AM, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        We have a very uncomfortable situation:

         

        - applications have to be accepted until 29 July (2 weeks extension) - 
to whatever SO/AC they are related. That's what yestarday's announcement update 
says. And any candidate can rely on this since it was community wide published.

        - I assume this happened in accordance with the selectors since they're 
the masters of the overall process.

         

        My personal opinion is that therefore the selectors should take the 
burden of this confusion and shift the announcement of the RT members. 1 week 
shift is a minimum, 2 weeks would be satisfactory.

         

        Best regards 
        Wolf-Ulrich Knoben 

         

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                Von: owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von 
Tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Gesendet: Freitag, 16. Juli 2010 08:25
                An: 'Gomes, Chuck'; 'Marilyn Cade'; glen@xxxxxxxxx; 
liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Steve Metalitz'; cdigangi@xxxxxxxx; 
sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Harris, Anthony'
                Betreff: RE: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for 
Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010

                Just to add that as Chair of the ISPCP I’ll also be formally 
objecting to the fact that the extension does not apply to the GNSO candidates. 
This is totally unacceptable.

                 

                Chuck – You make the point that the issue of 2 or 4 reps must 
be dealt with as a separate issue. If that’s the case, by the same token so 
must the issue of the timetable for GNSO endorsement. As a minimum any decision 
on this must require council support, its’ far too big an issue for an 
arbitrary decision by the council chair. This activity gets to the very heart 
of ICANN’s future.

                 

                Regards

                 

                Tony

                 

                From: owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
                Sent: 15 July 2010 23:14
                To: Marilyn Cade; glen@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
Steve Metalitz; cdigangi@xxxxxxxx; sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx; Tony Holmes; 
Harris, Anthony
                Subject: RE: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for 
Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010

                 

                Marilyn,

                 

                I’m shocked as well Marilyn but for very different reasons than 
you.  

                 

                The rationale for my decision is really very simple.  This 
extension was made without consultation with the GNSO and without any 
consideration of the approved GNSO endorsement process.  Once I found out about 
it (today after the Council meeting, on the last day of the application 
period), I asked one simple question: will the deadline for GNSO endorsements 
be extended by the same amount of time?  I was told no; GNSO endorsements are 
still do the end of August.  The Council approved a process that gives SGs 21 
days to to perform their endorsement processes and then allows time for the 
Council in consultation with its respective groups.  We were given 45 days for 
our process; with the extension we would have two days and we don’t have a 
Council meeting scheduled until the middle of September.  I can see no way to 
make that work.  If the time to execute the process was extended by the same 
number of days as the application period, which I assumed was the right thing 
to do, I would not have reacted the way I did.  

                 

                Normally, I would have at least consulted on the Council list 
before acting; in this case I made the judgment that any more delays would just 
add to the confusion and seriously hinder our ability to meet the end of August 
deadline.

                 

                I am not a aware of a GNSO policy council.  I assume you mean 
the GNSO Council that is tasked with managing the policy development process.  
I also believe that having 4 reps on the SSR RT is important, but that is a 
separate issue.  I sent a message off in that regard to the selectors this 
morning.

                 

                Feel free to send any letter you like.  I think it would be 
good for the Board to know how this came about because it was totally 
unacceptable.

                 

                Chuck

                 

                From: Marilyn Cade [mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:49 PM
                To: Gomes, Chuck; glen@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
Steve Metalitz; cdigangi@xxxxxxxx; sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx; Tony Holmes; 
Harris, Anthony
                Subject: RE: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for 
Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010

                 

                Chuck, while I NOTE your 'notice' on this topic,I strongly 
object to your decision.  I have no idea why this is viewed as acceptable. It 
is not acceptable to my constituency. 

                 

                Frankly, the GNSO poiicy council should have been spending time 
on advocating to change the number of reps from the GNSO [as an SO] from 2 to 
4, as all of us believe is critically important. 

                 

                I have seen no energy on that front and that disappoints me. 

                 

                Instead, I am seeing this notice from you, as chair of the 
policy council, that surprises me, and actually, shocks me. and, I guess, 
disappoints me. 

                 

                There is a notice of an extension. I sent that out immediately. 
It is broadly distributed in the business community. I told people of the 
extension. 

                 

                Where has your decision come from? an edict from ICANN? If so, 
then this needs to be made public, and the leaders of the SGs need to be 
engaged. 

                 

                Let's sort through this and why this can't be accepted. the 
extension has to be applied to all. 

                 

                 

                All of us are, in the community of leadership in the SGs are 
working hard to work with the gnso policy council, but to see an announcement 
from the chair of the policy council that suggests that the extension does not 
apply to GNSO candidates is mystifying, confusing and cannot be supported by 
the BC chair.

                 

                upon receipt of the extension, like any good chair of a 
constituency, and executive member of a SG,  I  distributed the ICANN staff 
announcement about an extension to the BC and other leadership of CSG. I 
advised my constituency and others of the extension. 

                 

                I could say: I just don't get it. 

                 

                What is the process to decide that an extension that is 
announced does not apply to the GNSO candidates? I have no idea what you mean 
by "unless notified to the contrary", but it must be a code for something. 
Please call me at 202 252 6787 on my cell. 

                 

                At this point, I am writing a letter of concern to the full 
Board that this extension which is now publicly available, is denied to GNSO 
candidates. 

                 

                Fill me in on why I should not send that letter.  You can call 
my cell at 202 251 6787. 

                 

                 

                 

                Marilyn Cade

                BC Chair

                 

                
                
                
                
                
                > Subject: RE: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for 
Applicants for a Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
                > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:11:39 -0400
                > From: cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
                > To: Glen@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                > 
                > 
                > Unless further notified to the contrary, this extension will 
not apply to GNSO candidates. The deadline for candidates requesting GNSO 
endorsements remains today, 15 July.
                > 
                > Chuck Gomes
                > GNSO Council Chair
                > 
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-
                > > liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry
                > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:39 PM
                > > To: liaison6c
                > > Subject: [liaison6c] EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for 
Applicants for a
                > > Position of Volunteer Review Team Member - 29 July 2010
                > > 
                > > 
                > > 
                > > 
http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-01jun10-en.htm
                > > 
                > > EXTENSION OF DEADLINE - Call for Applicants for a Position 
of Volunteer
                > > Review Team Member
                > > 
                > > - Review Team 2: Security, Stability and Resiliency of the 
DNS -
                > > - Review Team 4: WHOIS Policy -
                > > 
                > > Updated: 15 July 2010
                > > 13 July 2010
                > > 1 July 2010
                > > 1 June 2010
                > > 
                > > Deadline: 15 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
                > > 
                > > Extended to: 29 July 2010 - 23.59 UTC
                > > 
                > > The Affirmation of Commitments calls for a periodic review 
of four key
                > > ICANN objectives, namely:
                > > 
                > > 1. Ensuring accountability, transparency and the interests 
of global
                > > Internet users;
                > > 2. Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS;
                > > 3. Promoting competition, consumer trust and consumer 
choice;
                > > 4. WHOIS policy.
                > > 
                > > Affirmation reviews are to be performed by Review Teams 
composed of
                > > volunteer community Members representing the relevant 
Supporting
                > > Organizations and Advisory Committees of ICANN. Please 
refer to the
                > > Affirmation Reviews web space for full reference.
                > > 
                > > ICANN now invites interested individuals to apply for a 
position of
                > > volunteer Review Team Member on the following Review Teams:
                > > 
                > > * Preserving security, stability and resiliency of the DNS;
                > > * WHOIS policy.
                > > 
                > > This call is solely intended for interested individuals who 
wish to
                > > apply in representation of a Supporting Organization (SO) 
or Advisory
                > > Committee (AC). Candidatures to serve as independent 
experts will not
                > > be considered.
                > > 
                > > Please download the full text of this Call for Applicants 
[PDF, 101
                > > KB], which contains further instructions and information on 
the
                > > application procedure for interested candidates.
                > > 
                > > Interested candidates, please submit your CV, letter of 
motivation and
                > > SO/AC requirements (if applicable) to 
rtcandidatures@xxxxxxxxx by 29
                > > July 2010 - 23:59 UTC. SO/AC requirements may be found at:
                > > 
http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/affirmation/call-for-applicants-2-and-
                > > 4-en.htm
                > > 
                > > Launch dates and deadlines:
                > > 
                > > * 29 July 2010 --> Publication of the list of volunteers
                > > * End of August 2010 --> Endorsement by SO/ACs
                > > * First week of September 2010 --> Selectors announce the RT
                > > Members
                > > 
                > > Glen de Saint Géry
                > > GNSO Secretariat
                > > gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                > > http://gnso.icann.org
                > > 
                > > 
                > 
                >