RE: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeti

[Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I, personally am a little astounded by the principle and effort. Perhaps I am 
missing the point.

Excuse me for sounding perhaps a little arrogant (you shouldn't be shocked by 
now) but I am not sure why such support needs to be provided at all.

I'd love to have a telco licence in my country or to have bid for some spectrum 
but alas, I didn't have the funds and missed out. Perhaps I should apply to the 
government for assistance so that I can run my own cell phone number allocation 
and give them out to my constituents to improve their communication.

Why is this situation any different? It costs a substantial amount of money to 
run a TLD and rightly so. It is critical infrastructure and should not be taken 
lightly. I am not sure why the fuss has been around the $185,000 any way. If 
you are having trouble with that, then look away, because ICANN's tech team 
have stipulated EPP Registry's, sophisticated DNS and disaster recovery just to 
name a few, not to mention the Registry failover financial instrument.

TLD's aren't for everyone and they shouldn't be. If that means they are 
exclusively for the rich then unfortunately that is the way the worldturns. As 
I say, anyone want to start up a foundation to fund me to secure an Oil 
Drilling license in the North Sea?

Adrian Kinderis


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Bruce Tonkin
Sent: Sunday, 21 March 2010 1:43 PM
To: GNSO Council 
Subject: RE: [council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop 
a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring assistance 
in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board 
Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeti


Hello Rafiq,

> That is why I would like if possible that Bruce point to documents (if
> they exist) explaining in details the why of such requested costs for
> running a regisrty from ICANN perspective?but also for the application
> fees as the explanation of cost recovery remains vague and abstract.
> 


There are two papers available on the ICANN component of the costs.

See:

http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/cost-considerations-23oct08-en.
pdf

and

http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/cost-considerations-04oct09-en.
pdf

There is also a paper on a benchmarking study on what is involved in
operating a registry.   This was conducted by KPMG and compared 7 gTLDs
and 6 ccTLDs across 10 countries.

See:
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/benchmarking-report-15feb10-en.
pdf

Note that there are also some letter of credit requirements etc to be
able to provide funding to operate a registry for I think three
additional years, if a registry operator chooses to cease providing that
function.

Regards,
Bruce Tonkin