RE: [council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2 Applications for AoC Reviews - GNSO Endorsement -

["Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx>]

Yes, it is my understanding that someone can be a member of more than one 
SG/constituency.


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        From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:45 AM
        To: Rosette, Kristina
        Cc: Council GNSO
        Subject: Re: [council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2 Applications for 
AoC Reviews - GNSO Endorsement -
        
        
        Hi, 

        just want some clarifications:
        
        
        2010/2/16 Rosette, Kristina <krosette@xxxxxxx>
        

                I understand your point, Bill, but I think that, with one 
exception, allowing each applicant to decide which SG should consider his/her 
application will lead to gaming.  I think we should apply the following "rules".
                 

        [Rafik] I guess that each applicant should decide which SG except if 
his/her case need more screening 

                1. Applicant stated in her/his application that she/he is 
member of an SG or constituency.
                 
                    One SG/constituency membership --> assign to that 
SG/constituency
                    More than one --> applicant must designate which one.
                

        [Rafik] are you sure that someone can be member of more than one 
SG/Constituency?
         

                 
                2.  Applicant did not state in his/her application that she/he 
is member of an SG or constituency
                 
                    Councilor knowledge of membership in SG/constituency --> 
assign to that SG/constituency
                    Councilor knowledge of membership in At Large --> assign to 
ALAC
                    No membership in At Large or SG/constituency --> 
unaffiliated
                 
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                From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
                
                Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:54 AM 

                To: Gomes, Chuck
                Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; Council GNSO
                Subject: Re: [council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2 
Applications for AoC Reviews - GNSO Endorsement -
                


                        Hi Chuck,  

                        On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:


                                        Either way, these early apps point to a 
tweak we should make 
                                        

                                        to the Proposed Process.  We don't 
presently say anything 
                                        

                                        about how apps will be allocated to the 
up to six slots.
                                        


                                Chuck: Not sure I agree here.  My understanding 
is the following: 1) We say that the SGs decide who, if any, will be allocated 
to four slots; 2)the Council will decide on the other two slots.  Do you think 
we need to be more explicit about that?  
                                


                        The process document reflects the state of the DT's 
discussion as of last Wednesday, at which point we'd sort of said ok we 
(DT/Council/ET) will figure out next how exactly the allocation of applications 
to slots will be done, and we're debating that in the DT now.  But here I'm 
trying to look at it from an applicant's point of view, and in that context I'm 
wondering if they wouldn't want more of a sense of what happens after they hit 
send. I know I've had communication with someone who's considering applying but 
would like more clarity.  Presumably we don't want to deter applications by 
fostering uncertainty, unless it's unavoidable.
                        


                                        Perhaps we don't need to specify all 
the gory details, but at 
                                        

                                        a minimum it would be helpful if the 
text asked applicants to 
                                        

                                        say which SG, if any, they'd like to be 
nominated by.  (If 
                                        

                                        having been asked they still give no 
preference the 
                                        

                                        Evaluation Team or Council-TBD--would 
have to make a 
                                        

                                        determination in accordance with a 
procedure still to be 
                                        

                                        settled and proposed by the DT).  In 
these cases we have a 
                                        

                                        CORE person and an IPR lawyer so maybe 
it's straightforward, 
                                        

                                        but maybe not...
                                        


                                Chuck: I have several concerns about asking 
applicants to specify which slot they want: 1) It would require us to more 
carefully define the slots to applicants so they could make an informed 
decision and I don't think there is enough time for to do that or to answer 
questions that would arrise; 2) some applicants will likely choose a slot or 
slots for which we don't think they fit; 3) if we did ask applicants to choose 
a slot or slots, I think SGs and the Council for the two open slots should 
still have the option to endorse a candidate for a slot they didn't choose, so 
what would the advantage be of asking candidates to choose? 4) in general, I 
think asking candidates to choose slots adds complexity that we do not have 
time for without commensorate value.
                                


                        Asking them to indicate if they see themselves as and 
wish to be endorsed by any particular SG would make their desires clearer and 
help us avoid doing something they object to, unless it can't be helped.  Let's 
say someone works for an entity that's nominally in SG x but is really into the 
issues and orientation of SG y, with which s/he collaborates closely and might 
expect stronger support than from SG x.  Simply asking which if any SG are you 
seeking the endorsement of would provide a clarifying default.  But of course, 
if ET and/or Council decides the candidate really does fit SG y rather than x, 
or should/not be treated as an unaffiliated person, ok, we need not be bound by 
his/her indication.

                        I'm not going to hari kari if Council prefers to do it 
another way, but have come to think that it'd be nicer to candidates if we 
simply ask them if they have a preference, and that it might be useful in 
assessing applicants from folks with complex profiles.

                        Cheers,

                        BD


                                
                                


                                        One other thought: would it perhaps 
make sense to post 
                                        

                                        complete applications to the web and 
then direct people to 
                                        

                                        them there, rather than emailing zip 
files around between the 
                                        

                                        secretariat, council, SG chairs, SG 
members, etc?  And beyond 
                                        

                                        the transactions costs issue, there's 
also a transparency 
                                        

                                        dimension-the apps should be accessible 
to the public, as 
                                        

                                        envisioned by ICANN's call.
                                        


                                Chuck: Good idea.
                                
                                
                                


                                        Best,
                                        


                                        BIll
                                        


                                        On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Glen de 
Saint Géry wrote:
                                        



                                        Forwarded From: Alice Jansen
                                        



                                        Good morning,
                                        


                                        In line with Chuck Gomes' request (see 
below), you will 
                                        

                                        find enclosed two endorsement 
applications for Affirmation of 
                                        

                                        Commitments reviews from candidates 
that indicated GNSO as their SO. 
                                        


                                        Please note that although candidates 
have specified an 
                                        

                                        order of preference for the reviews to 
be performed, both 
                                        

                                        selected the 'Accountability and 
Transparency' review which 
                                        

                                        Mr. Gomes stresses in his email.
                                        


                                        The compressed folders attached to this 
email contain the 
                                        

                                        applicants' CV and motivation letter.
                                        


                                        The application deadline for the 
'Accountability and 
                                        

                                        Transparency' review will expire on 
February the 22nd, 
                                        

                                        midnight UTC, but as you know the GNSO 
Council will have 
                                        

                                        until the 1st March to endorse the 
candidatures.
                                        


                                        Best regards
                                        


                                        Alice
                                        


                                        Alice E. Jansen
                                        

                                        --------------------------
                                        

                                        ICANN
                                        

                                        Assistant, Organizational Reviews
                                        


                                        
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                                        From: Gomes, Chuck 
[mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
                                        

                                        Sent: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010 00:51
                                        

                                        To: Marco Lorenzoni
                                        

                                        Cc: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
                                        

                                        Subject: GNSO Request
                                        


                                        Marco,
                                        


                                        The GNSO requests that applications 
received from 
                                        

                                        volunteers for the Accountability and 
Transparency RT be 
                                        

                                        forwarded to the GNSO Secretariat as 
soon as possible after 
                                        

                                        receipt for distribution to the Council 
list, SGs and other 
                                        

                                        GNSO organization lists.  If 
applications are received prior 
                                        

                                        to finalization of the GNSO endorsement 
process on 18 
                                        

                                        February, it would be helpful if the 
applicants seeking GNSO 
                                        

                                        endorsement were informed that 
additional GNSO information 
                                        

                                        requirements will be identified on 18 
February and will be 
                                        

                                        requested at that time along with the 
CV and motivation letter.
                                        

                                        If there are any concerns with this, 
please let me know.
                                        


                                        Thanks for your assistance.
                                        


                                        Chuck Gomes
                                        

                                        <Eric Brunner-Williams.zip><Victoria 
McEvedy.zip>
                                        


                                        
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