Re: [council] FW: Organizational Reviews - 2 Applications for AoC Reviews - GNSO Endorsement -

[William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chuck, 

On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

>> Either way, these early apps point to a tweak we should make 
>> to the Proposed Process.  We don't presently say anything 
>> about how apps will be allocated to the up to six slots.
> 
> Chuck: Not sure I agree here.  My understanding is the following: 1) We say 
> that the SGs decide who, if any, will be allocated to four slots; 2)the 
> Council will decide on the other two slots.  Do you think we need to be more 
> explicit about that?  

The process document reflects the state of the DT's discussion as of last 
Wednesday, at which point we'd sort of said ok we (DT/Council/ET) will figure 
out next how exactly the allocation of applications to slots will be done, and 
we're debating that in the DT now.  But here I'm trying to look at it from an 
applicant's point of view, and in that context I'm wondering if they wouldn't 
want more of a sense of what happens after they hit send. I know I've had 
communication with someone who's considering applying but would like more 
clarity.  Presumably we don't want to deter applications by fostering 
uncertainty, unless it's unavoidable.
> 
>> Perhaps we don't need to specify all the gory details, but at 
>> a minimum it would be helpful if the text asked applicants to 
>> say which SG, if any, they'd like to be nominated by.  (If 
>> having been asked they still give no preference the 
>> Evaluation Team or Council-TBD--would have to make a 
>> determination in accordance with a procedure still to be 
>> settled and proposed by the DT).  In these cases we have a 
>> CORE person and an IPR lawyer so maybe it's straightforward, 
>> but maybe not...
> 
> Chuck: I have several concerns about asking applicants to specify which slot 
> they want: 1) It would require us to more carefully define the slots to 
> applicants so they could make an informed decision and I don't think there is 
> enough time for to do that or to answer questions that would arrise; 2) some 
> applicants will likely choose a slot or slots for which we don't think they 
> fit; 3) if we did ask applicants to choose a slot or slots, I think SGs and 
> the Council for the two open slots should still have the option to endorse a 
> candidate for a slot they didn't choose, so what would the advantage be of 
> asking candidates to choose? 4) in general, I think asking candidates to 
> choose slots adds complexity that we do not have time for without 
> commensorate value.

Asking them to indicate if they see themselves as and wish to be endorsed by 
any particular SG would make their desires clearer and help us avoid doing 
something they object to, unless it can't be helped.  Let's say someone works 
for an entity that's nominally in SG x but is really into the issues and 
orientation of SG y, with which s/he collaborates closely and might expect 
stronger support than from SG x.  Simply asking which if any SG are you seeking 
the endorsement of would provide a clarifying default.  But of course, if ET 
and/or Council decides the candidate really does fit SG y rather than x, or 
should/not be treated as an unaffiliated person, ok, we need not be bound by 
his/her indication.

I'm not going to hari kari if Council prefers to do it another way, but have 
come to think that it'd be nicer to candidates if we simply ask them if they 
have a preference, and that it might be useful in assessing applicants from 
folks with complex profiles.

Cheers,

BD

> 
>> 
>> One other thought: would it perhaps make sense to post 
>> complete applications to the web and then direct people to 
>> them there, rather than emailing zip files around between the 
>> secretariat, council, SG chairs, SG members, etc?  And beyond 
>> the transactions costs issue, there's also a transparency 
>> dimension-the apps should be accessible to the public, as 
>> envisioned by ICANN's call.
> 
> Chuck: Good idea.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> BIll
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Forwarded From: Alice Jansen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> 
>>> In line with Chuck Gomes' request (see below), you will 
>> find enclosed two endorsement applications for Affirmation of 
>> Commitments reviews from candidates that indicated GNSO as their SO. 
>>> 
>>> Please note that although candidates have specified an 
>> order of preference for the reviews to be performed, both 
>> selected the 'Accountability and Transparency' review which 
>> Mr. Gomes stresses in his email.
>>> 
>>> The compressed folders attached to this email contain the 
>> applicants' CV and motivation letter.
>>> 
>>> The application deadline for the 'Accountability and 
>> Transparency' review will expire on February the 22nd, 
>> midnight UTC, but as you know the GNSO Council will have 
>> until the 1st March to endorse the candidatures.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> Alice
>>> 
>>> Alice E. Jansen
>>> --------------------------
>>> ICANN
>>> Assistant, Organizational Reviews
>>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>> 
>>> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010 00:51
>>> To: Marco Lorenzoni
>>> Cc: gnso-arr-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: GNSO Request
>>> 
>>> Marco,
>>> 
>>> The GNSO requests that applications received from 
>> volunteers for the Accountability and Transparency RT be 
>> forwarded to the GNSO Secretariat as soon as possible after 
>> receipt for distribution to the Council list, SGs and other 
>> GNSO organization lists.  If applications are received prior 
>> to finalization of the GNSO endorsement process on 18 
>> February, it would be helpful if the applicants seeking GNSO 
>> endorsement were informed that additional GNSO information 
>> requirements will be identified on 18 February and will be 
>> requested at that time along with the CV and motivation letter.
>>> If there are any concerns with this, please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>> 
>>> Chuck Gomes
>>> <Eric Brunner-Williams.zip><Victoria McEvedy.zip>
>> 
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>> William J. Drake
>> Senior Associate
>> Centre for International Governance
>> Graduate Institute of International and
>> Development Studies
>> Geneva, Switzerland
>> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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