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RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP Charter Drafting Team


Adrian,
 
Are the milestones in the current PDP sufficient?  They have rarely if ever 
worked but if setting milestones is the goal, we already have them.  
Unfortunately though, we moved beyond the process in the PDP several years ago.
 
Chuck


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        From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:01 PM
        To: Gomes, Chuck; Mary Wong; William Drake
        Cc: GNSO Council List; Glen@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP Charter 
Drafting Team
        
        

        Whilst I agree it would be difficult to perfectly predict the final PDP 
date, I believe it is imperative that strict milestones be set and aimed for.

        These milestones should be drafted and included in the charter.

         

        Adrian Kinderis
        
        

         

        From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 12:49 AM
        To: Adrian Kinderis; Mary Wong; William Drake
        Cc: GNSO Council List; Glen@xxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP Charter 
Drafting Team

         

        Adrian,

         

        As you noted, the motion directs the DT to deliver a proposed charter 
within 30 days from the date of the motion; that translates to 27 Feb.

         

        The next Council meeting after that is the one on 10 March in Nairobi.  
The 27 Feb completion date will meet the 8 day requirement for motions, so the 
Council agenda for the 10 Mar meeting will include discussion and approval of 
the charter.

         

        So there are two firm dates: 1) Proposed charter sent to Council not 
later than 27 Feb; 2) Council action on charter on 10 Mar.

         

        I would expect that the proposed charter will include suggested 
timeframes for the other milestones that you suggest.  But I would expect that 
it will be very difficult to set a final PDP date.  To try to do that would put 
us into the same situation that the unrealistic time requirements in the 
current PDP does.  But I will leave that to the Charter DT.

         

        Chuck

                 

                
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                From: Adrian Kinderis [mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:27 AM
                To: Mary Wong; William Drake; Gomes, Chuck
                Cc: GNSO Council List; Glen@xxxxxxxxx
                Subject: RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP 
Charter Drafting Team

                Chuck et al,

                Can we get a few milestone dates attached to this process from 
a 'delivering on time' point of view?

                Perhaps something like (and this is very crude and for 
illustration purposes only);

                ·         Charter Drafting Team nominations close (xx/xx)

                ·         Charter Drafted (yy/yy)

                ·         PDP Process 1 Starts (zz/zz)

                ·         PDP Process 1 Completed (aa/aa)

                ·         Final PDP Presented to GNSO Council (bb/bb)

                Even if this is just draft it would provide a timeline for the 
work to be completed.

                I believe, given the importance of this task, and the fact that 
a 'due date' was thought important enough to be included in the motion, we 
should put something in place ASAP. Without it, we could potentially be doomed 
to 'phaffing about' without direction. 

                Thoughts?

                Adrian Kinderis

                 

                From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Wong
                Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 9:19 AM
                To: William Drake; Chuck Gomes
                Cc: GNSO Council List; Glen@xxxxxxxxx
                Subject: RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP 
Charter Drafting Team

                 

                Thanks to Liz and Chuck for their clarifications and 
suggestions.

                 

                I agree that the DT should be reasonably small, and would in 
this case personally prefer not to set numbers for each SG/SO/AC, or worry 
about matching/equivalence. In other situations and over other issues, equal 
representation of each group may be a fundamental concern, but in this case I 
believe NCSG is recommending Avri and Milton not because we believe we (or 
everyone) needs at least two (or however many) representatives. Rather, and for 
the reasons that Bill has stated, Avri and Milton will best represent NCSG in 
terms of what is likely to be a difficult preliminary issue (i.e. scoping out 
the WG). 

                 

                Cheers

                Mary

                 

                 

                 

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From: 

"Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To:

"William Drake" <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

CC:

Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, "GNSO Council List" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 

2/1/2010 4:33 PM

Subject: 

RE: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP Charter Drafting Team

I wouldn't see any problem with that.  I just think it would be best to keep it 
as small as reasonably possible because of the short timeframe and limited 
task.  If the CSG wants three to cover three constituencies, would you want 
three?  (BTW, they have not asked for three.)

 

Chuck

         

        
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        From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:28 PM
        To: Gomes, Chuck
        Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; GNSO Council List
        Subject: Re: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP Charter 
Drafting Team

        Chuck, 

         

        Two.  There are some fundamental issues in the air about the proper 
scope and terms of reference for the WG that need to be sorted out by the DT.  
Even if NCSG were to resolve its internal differences on these points, there 
would probably still be differences between the houses once the discussion gets 
to specifics. We're dealing with a rather variable geometry of perspectives, 
and as I say both people mentioned will add to working these things through.

         

        Best,

         

        Bill

         

        On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

         

        Bill,

         

        How many do you think the NCSG needs for the charter drafting team, not 
for the WG.

         

        Chuck

                 

                
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                From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:59 PM
                To: Gomes, Chuck
                Cc: Glen de Saint Géry; GNSO Council List
                Subject: Re: [council] Volunteer for Vertical Integration PDP 
Charter Drafting Team

                Hi 

                 

                And from NCSG, Avri Doria and Milton Mueller.  

                 

                One participant from each SG would not work for NCSG, as we 
have a couple of contending perspectives in play, with multiple members aligned 
with each.  Avri and Milton have been very active and thoughtful proponents of 
those respective perspectives, both of which overlap/synergize in some ways 
with the positions advanced by other SGs.  Should be an interesting 
discussion...

                 

                Best,

                 

                Bill

                 

                 

                On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

                 

                Glen,

                 

                Please add Brian Cute from Afilias to this DT.

                 

                Thanks, Chuck

                 

                 

         

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