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RE: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
It would be helpful to have a motion today. It can be simple. That way
Councilors can easily forward the motion to their respective groups for
feedback and direction.
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: Alan Greenberg; GNSO Council List
> Subject: Re: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
>
>
> Hi Chuck
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>
> > Thanks Bill for your response to Alan's question. In my
> opinion as one member of the DT, I concur with your
> assessment. And I also wonder if it might be good for us to
> add the gist of what you say in your first paragragh to our
> comments. Maybe something like this:
> >
> > "The Affirmation Reviews Discussion Draft lists the
> 'capacity to make abstractions from personal opinions' as a
> desired skill for review team members and goes on to say 'the
> individual opinions of evaluators should not interfere with
> the rigorous analysis of findings'. The GNSO Council
> therefore concluded that the reviewers are there to act as
> autonomous experts who'd neutrally assess information with an
> eye toward advancing the collective good, rather than
> promoting the private agendas of particular stakeholders."
>
> >
> > In my personal opinion, this would be a helpful
> clarification to our suggestion that there be communication
> between the reviewers and their respective SOs/ACs, making it
> clear that we do not intend such communication to serve as a
> means for SOs and ACs to advance their agendas but rather to
> be a means to provide relevant information as needed in the
> review process.
>
>
> Personally, I kind of feel like we already make these points,
> maybe not as much in bold and underlined but they're there.
> We can leave the text the dt approved stable and try to get
> consensus, or open it up and see what happens...whatever
> people want.
>
> Also would be good to know if Alan is satisfied enough or
> wants to suggest a different approach.
>
> And we need a motion no?
>
> Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Drake
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:17 AM
> >> To: Alan Greenberg
> >> Cc: GNSO Council List
> >> Subject: Re: [council] Draft Council letter on the ARR
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Alan
> >>
> >> On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Bill, there is a line in the draft which says "We agree
> >> with the draft that Review team members are not to "represent"
> >> particularistic interests, and that they should be broadly neutral
> >> and focused on the collective good of the ICANN community as a
> >> whole."
> >>>
> >>> Can you point out where the document it says this? I can
> >> find a bunch of references saying that the do represent
> the AC/SOs,
> >> but not the opposite.
> >>
> >> You raise a valid concern, and perhaps the language could
> be clearer.
> >> There is of course representation to the extent that
> AC/SOs nominate
> >> "their" people. The question is, what happens from there?
> The draft
> >> proposes that the call for candidates include, as a desired skill,
> >> capacity to make "abstractions from personal opinions." This is
> >> poorly worded; I presume it's supposed to mean judgments
> that are not
> >> based on those opinions, rather than abstract inferential
> reasoning
> >> that is based on them. It goes on to say more clearly that "the
> >> individual opinions of evaluators should not interfere with the
> >> rigorous analysis of findings;" that the Selectors should
> pick people
> >> based on their skills (by inference, not their or their nominating
> >> group's opinions); that there should not be a public
> comment on the
> >> identity and personal characteristics of members; and that
> the teams,
> >> once constituted, are to have autonomy in selecting operating
> >> procedures, terms of reference, definition o!
> >> f tools and targets, gathering data, and conducting neutral
> >> evaluations rigorously based on indicators and evidence. So the
> >> drafting team read all this as implying that reviewers are
> there to
> >> act as autonomous experts who'd neutrally assess
> information with an
> >> eye toward advancing the collective good, rather than
> promoting the
> >> private agendas of particular stakeholders. Of course, this is
> >> aspirational, and in reality one's personal/group views
> may color how
> >> evidence is assessed, at least to some extent, but then that'd be
> >> open to challenge by colleagues if it crosses the line.
> >>
> >> It was with all this in mind that we added the language about RT
> >> members needing to periodically update their AC/SOs on
> main trends,
> >> being able to solicit input from their AC/SOs, and being
> prepared to
> >> pass along unsolicited input from their AC/SOs, when
> really merited.
> >> The hope was that this would balance RT autonomy and obligation to
> >> assess neutrally with an appropriate level of openness and
> >> communication to one's AC/SO.
> >>
> >> If you don't think that's sufficient, and that RT members
> should in
> >> fact be there wearing the hats of their nominating entity
> and start
> >> sentences like "well, from the perspective of xxx, we think
> >> that....," of something similar, feel free to propose language to
> >> that effect and see if you get takers.
> >> It just wasn't how the drafting team read the doc or
> envisioned the
> >> process, and there's at least some grounds for believing that
> >> approach would result in a more politicized,
> negotiation/bargaining
> >> style of interaction.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
>
> ***********************************************************
> William J. Drake
> Senior Associate
> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
> Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
> william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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>
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