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[council] RE: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] Draft request for a PDP-WT face-to-face meeting
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- Subject: [council] RE: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] Draft request for a PDP-WT face-to-face meeting
- From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:11:28 -0800
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For the record, I agree with both of Robin's points, and am copying Council
list so the Councilors can see a couple big issues that will be inherent in
every F2F meeting that is sought by any WG.
I continue to disagree that Staff should assist with a F2F meeting of this
PDP-WT, without GNSO Council consideration and approval of such a request,
in light of all other GNSO priorities and initiatives that are ongoing. I
must assume that budget for this sort of thing is not unlimited, and so
should not simply be usurped because a few people think that this is a
priority over all else, and have got themselves 'first in line'.
Mike Rodenbaugh
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From: owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Robin Gross; Marika Konings
Cc: Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] Draft request for a PDP-WT face-to-face meeting
Thank you for this note Robin. We will discuss during the call on Thursday.
Please rest assured that regardless of the outcome of the issue of 1 vs 2 or
3 reps, it is my job to ensure that all viewpoints are heard and reflected
in any resulting work product. This should have nothing to do with the
number of people from a particular group that attend a meeting. If I am
not successful in doing my job, I expect you all to let me know.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
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From: owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Robin Gross
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:24 PM
To: Marika Konings
Cc: Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] Draft request for a PDP-WT face-to-face meeting
Thanks for the draft. I have a couple concerns with it, however, before it
can meet approval.
I disagree with the proposition that only 1 NCSG member will be funded to
participate, while 3 CSG representatives will be funded to participate at
this meeting. Given the move toward parity within the GNSO, NCSG should
have equal participation to CSG at this meeting. It seems hardly fair for
Internet users (via ICANN) to fund 3 commercial participants while the
non-commercial users are only allowed 1 representative. NCSG would settle
for 2 members to participate, however (still less than CSG's 3).
I also disagree with the proposition that our participants have to meet
ICANN's "active participation" standard. At least within NCSG, we cannot
send our member who has been most active and need to send another person in
many cases. NCSG members coordinate among themselves on a position and who
to send to represent us. It may not always be someone who ICANN decides is
"active" enough. But it is ultimately up to the NCSG (not ICANN) as to who
to send to represent noncommercial users at the meeting.
Thanks,
Robin
On Dec 2, 2009, at 1:36 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
Dear All,
As discussed, please find attached the draft request for a PDP-WT
face-to-face meeting for discussion and review at our next meeting, Thursday
3 December at 15.00 UTC.
With best regards,
Marika <Request for a PDP WT Face to Face meeting - 2 December 2009.doc>
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