RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate

["Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx>]

Given that we have always taken the position that a vote can be a roll call 
vote (as opposed to one by acclamation) on the request of one Councilor, my 
request for a secret ballot should be sufficient.  

If it's not secret, I will not vote.  Period.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Avri Doria
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:56 AM
To: Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House 
determines a Candidate


Hi,

Don't know.  Worth checking.  Though the system may have to be reworked for the 
bi-cameral nature of the vote.

We can certainly do paper ballots where one indicates not only their vote but 
their House.

Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot?

a.

On 15 Oct 2009, at 15:46, Gomes, Chuck wrote:

> Is there any reason why we couldn't hold a live email election?  I 
> don't know the limitations of the election software.
>
> Chuck
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rosette, Kristina
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:25 AM
>> To: avri@xxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 
>> Each House determines a Candidate
>>
>>
>> To my recollection, none of our previous elections while I have been 
>> on Council have been public.  I thought I'd missed the rationale for 
>> holding it publicly.  I've gone back and reviewed the messages I 
>> could find, but haven't seen one.  I had thought we would be voting 
>> privately in the week beforehand with the results announced at the 
>> meeting.
>>
>> I object to our having to hold the election as a roll call vote.  I 
>> believe all Councilors should be permitted to cast votes privately.  
>> Casting open ballots will not be conducive to the improved working 
>> relationship that many of us have articulated a desire to develop.  
>> Moreover, given that I have found the environment at ICANN meetings 
>> generally (including public Council meetings) to be hostile, I 
>> believe casting those votes publicly is more likely than not to 
>> exacerbate that problem.
>>
>> In sum, I want to vote privately as we've done in the past and have 
>> the results announced at the Council meeting.  Doing so has the extra 
>> benefit of having a definitive result at the Council meeting 
>> (assuming there is a clear winner); no delay from absentee balloting 
>> will occur.
>>
>> K
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Council GNSO <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thu Oct 15 03:23:01 2009
>> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 
>> Each House determines a Candidate
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to ad a few more details to this part of the process.
>>
>> On 15 Oct 2009, at 08:01, Glen de Saint Géry wrote:
>>
>>> B. PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR THE VOTING
>>>
>>> For this election, the voting will take place at the public Council 
>>> meeting in Seoul on Wednesday, 28 October 2009.
>>>
>>> Avri Doria, current GNSO Council chair, will serve as
>> non-voting chair
>>> of the bicameral Council meeting on 28 October until such time as a 
>>> new chair is elected, at which time the new chair will assume the 
>>> chair responsibilities.
>>>
>>> If an absentee ballot is required to complete the chair's election, 
>>> this will be a 24 hour ballot scheduled to end on 29 October. If no 
>>> chair has been elected by the end of the Annual meeting on
>> 30 October,
>>> the vice-chairs will assume the chair responsibilities as
>> defined in
>>> the Bylaws and a runoff will be scheduled as determined in
>> the Council
>>> Procedures.
>>>
>>> The winning candidate needs 60% of the votes of each house.
>>>
>>> The Council shall inform the Board and the Community
>> appropriately and
>>> post the election results on the GNSO website within 2
>> business days
>>> following the election.
>>>
>>> In the event that the GNSO Council has not elected a GNSO Council 
>>> Chair by the end of the previous Chair's term, the Vice-Chairs will 
>>> serve as Interim GNSO Co-Chairs until a successful election can be 
>>> held.
>>
>> Since this election will be done in the meeting, I am planning to 
>> hold it as an open vote via a roll call.  This will be the second 
>> major item on the agenda, after a vote on any amendments to the 
>> proposed Operating Procedures the new Operating Procedures as 
>> possibly amended.
>>
>> I am hoping that all of the council members will be available for the 
>> vote, either in person or via remote communications, so that the 
>> election can be completed on the Wednesday, even if it needs to go to 
>> two rounds.  If we do not have everyone available for the call, then 
>> we will need to go a 24 hour absentee ballot on each round.  This 
>> means that the first round would not end until Thursday morning.  If 
>> necessary we could schedule a second round for Thursday, though we 
>> would then need to allow for voting at the Thursday meeting, which 
>> would be an exception to our normal practice.  In this case a second 
>> absentee ballot would end on Friday afternoon.  In any case, the goal 
>> is to enable the election of the new chair, if at all possible, by 
>> the end of the Seoul meeting.
>>
>> As I said, I am hoping we can avoid needing to do an absentee ballot 
>> so I hope that any council member who cannot attend the meeting can 
>> participate remote in al least the first part of the Wednesday 
>> meeting.
>>
>> Assuming we have a different candidate from each House, each council 
>> member polled would in turn be able to vote for:
>>
>> Candidate chosen by Contracted Parties House (CP House or, Candidate 
>> chosen by Non Contracted Parties House (NCP House) or, None of the 
>> above
>>
>> (In the case of a single candidate chosen by both Houses, the vote 
>> would resemble the second round procedure below)
>>
>> The votes would be tabulated separately according to House, though 
>> the roll will be called alphabetically.
>>
>> To  succeed a candidate needs 60% or each house.  This means  5 out 
>> of
>> 7 votes for the CP House and 8 out of 13 votes for the NCP House.
>>
>>  - If either the CP House candidate  or NCP House candidate get 60% 
>> of each House, he or she will have been elected and will take over as 
>> chair of the meeting at that point.
>>
>> - If 'None of the above' gets 60% of each house, then the election is 
>> halted and rescheduled for a month later.  In this case the two vice- 
>> chairs will take over as interim co-chairs at the end of the week.
>>
>> - If neither of the candidates (or "none of the above") gets the 
>> required 60% of each house, then a second round is called for.
>>
>> Assuming every one is present on Wednesday morning, we can hold this 
>> second round vote immediately, otherwise we can hold it on Thursday.
>>
>> The second roll call vote will be between:
>>
>> The candidate who received the greatest combined percentage of the 
>> votes when the results of each house is summed to the other 
>> (Percentage from CP House + Percentage from NCP House) or, None of 
>> the above
>>
>> If the candidate receives 60% votes of each House ( out of 7 votes 
>> for the CP House and 8 out of 13 votes for the NCP
>> House) then that candidate has been elected and will take over as 
>> chair of the meeting at that point.
>>
>> Otherwise, the election then the election is halted and rescheduled 
>> for a month later.  In this case the two vice-chairs will take over 
>> as interim co-chairs at the end of the week.
>>
>> I believe this process follows from the rules set for the election of 
>> chairs in the new bi-cameral council.  I very much look forward to 
>> completing a successful election on Wednesday morning.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> a.
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