Re: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure

[Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Chuck and Kristina.
I agree with Chuck that it could be useful to involve the new NCA Andrey in
this exchange of ideas.
What do others think?
regards
Olga


2009/9/11 Rosette, Kristina <krosette@xxxxxxx>

>  see my additional comments below.  (I have *not* yet gotten IPC input -
> these are my personal comments.)
>
> It seems reasonable to require that we have current
> Statements of Interest from each of the NCA appointees before making a 
> decision
>
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> *From:* owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Gomes, Chuck
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2009 10:24 AM
> *To:* Olga Cavalli
> *Cc:* GNSO Council
> *Subject:* RE: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure
>
>  Thanks Olga for the input.  Please see my responses below.
>
> Chuck
>
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> *From:* olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
> *Olga Cavalli
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:04 PM
> *To:* Gomes, Chuck
> *Cc:* GNSO Council
> *Subject:* Re: [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure
>
> Hi,
> being an NCA, I would like to add my thoughts in relation to our role in
> the new GNSO:
>
>
>    -
>
>    Option a:  The NCAs talk it through and figure out which roles seem
>    right to them.
>
> Could be a valid option, but one of the NCAs will be new in the council, so
> he could hardly figure out which role to select.
> [Gomes, Chuck] Regardless of how the Council ultimately decides to make
> this decision, I think that the input from the NCAs would be useful in
> making that decision.  Also, I think it would be fine to at least invite
> Andrey to participate in your discussion along with the three existing
> NCAs.
> [KR]:  I agree that input will be helpful, but should not be dispositive.
> See my comment on Option d below.
>
>    -
>
>    Option b:  Random selection.
>
>  In my oppinon it brings no value in it.
>
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Option c:  The council members decide with random selection of which
>>    House chooses first.
>>
>> This is another version of the random selection.
>
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Option d:  The two Houses collaborate and decide among them where the
>>    NCAs will be assigned.
>>
>> This could be an option but perhaps it should add a possible refusal by
> the NCA, in the case that he/she is not in favour of serving one of the
> houses or becoming a homeless. What I want to say is that it sounds unfair
> just say where NCAs go and not having any feedback about their expectations.
> [Gomes, Chuck] You make a valid point Olga.  I don't think we would benefit
> very much if an NCA was placed in a place where they didn't want to be or
> thought they could not add much value.
> [KR]:  I agree that NCA input is useful, but not dispositive.  For example,
> one NCA will have to be non-voting (can we not use "homeless", please?).  If
> all three "refuse" to be the non-voting NCA and we've committed to honoring
> those preferences, we've created quite a mess for ourselves.
>
>>
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Option e:  The new, inexperienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting
>>    Council seat and one of the above options is used to assign the two House
>>    seats.
>>
>> It should not be for the two years, it takes out the stress to voting in
> the first meetings, where there is a lot to read and sometimes it is hard to
> decide.
> [Gomes, Chuck] It seems to me that we could specify that the assignments
> are for one year only and request that the NomCom be tasked with assigning
> all three NCAs to seats in the following year.
> [KR] I like Chuck's suggestion.
>
>
> The problem I see with this approach is that the fact of voting necesarily
> pushes towards understanding, reading, asking, which at the beginning is
> challenging and good for the future performance of the NCA in the council.
> If you are new and you do not have to vote, then you do not have that
> incentive and you may loose some momentum.
>
>
>    -
>
>    Option f:   The experienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting Coundil seat
>    and one of the above options is used to assign the two House seats
>
> There is value in active participation without voting, so this option could
> be valid.
>
>    -
>
>    Option g: (Combination of option a and d) The two Houses collaborate
>    and decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned, with a refusal 
> option
>    by any of the NCAs.
>
> Regards to all.
> Olga
>
>
>
> 2009/9/10 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>>  Several have expressed views on this.  It would be helpful if we could
>> have more list discussion about the various options and any others anyone
>> proposes in the next week.  Our plan is to make a decision on this along
>> with the plan for seating Councilors in Seoul on 24 September.  Please get
>> input from the groups you represent.
>>
>> Thanks, Chuck
>>
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>> *From:* owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Olga Cavalli
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 2:48 PM
>> *To:* GNSO Council
>> *Subject:* [council] NCAs in the new GNSO Council structure
>>
>>   Hi,
>> as discussed yesterday in the conference call, and to start the discussion
>> in our list, I am including possible options for assigning the role of the
>> three NCAs in the new structure of the GNSO Council:
>>
>> Option a:  The NCAs talk it through and figure out which roles seem right
>> to them.
>>
>> Option b:  Random selection.
>>
>> Option c:  The council members decide with random selection of which
>> House chooses first.
>>
>> Option d:  The two Houses collaborate and decide among them where the NCAs
>> will be assigned.
>>
>> Option e:  The new, inexperienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting Council
>> seat and one of the above options is used to assign the two House seats.
>>
>> Option f:   The experienced NCA rep assumes the non-voting Coundil seat
>> and one of the above options is used to assign the two House seats
>>
>> Option g: (Combination of option a and d) The two Houses collaborate and
>> decide among them where the NCAs will be assigned, with a refusal option by
>> any of the NCAs.
>>
>> Please iclude other options thay you may think of and share your comments
>> about this in the list.
>>
>> We should decide about this in our next GNSO conference call on 24
>> September.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Olga
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> www.south-ssig.com.ar
>
>


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