RE: [liaison6c] RE: [council] Draft Revisions to the ICANN Bylaws Relating to GNSO Restructure
We can survive without a complete re-write of the PDP process, but Annex A of the Bylaws *will* have to change, at the very least to reflect voting thresholds. Perhaps other places as well. Alan At 29/03/2009 08:04 PM, Gomes, Chuck wrote: Jeff,Note that the Bylaws changes are supposed to only relate to the restructure of the Council to the new bicameral model and not to the broader GNSO improvements effort for which implementation plans are being developed by the work teams. It is true that the revised PDP will be a Bylaws issue but I don't believe that is included in this draft of Bylaws changes. The goal of this limited effort is to make sure that any Bylaws changes are in place before the Council moves to the bicameral model.Chuck ---------- From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:30 PMTo: Gomes, Chuck; ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx; stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx; Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [liaison6c] RE: [council] Draft Revisions to the ICANN Bylaws Relating to GNSO RestructureSpeaking not as a councilor, but as one who is still on these lists. There are many questions still being addressed by the 5 work teams which seem to be (perhaps unintentionally) superseded by Staff's work. As the chair of one of the work teams, one of our agenda items to discuss within the team (notice I did not say council) what parts should be in the bylaws and what should be in rules of operation. Again that is dependent as Chuck said on how the rules of operation can be changed.I want to thank Staff for this work, but I fear this will be a distraction as opposed to an aid for the community in doing the work of the 5 work teams. I again thank staff for doing some of this work, but I am afraid much of it was too premature. It is the community that needs to figure out how this will work, not the staff.Thanks. Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. Vice President, Law & Policy NeuStar, Inc. Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx ---------- From: owner-liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxTo: Ken Bour ; Stéphane Van Gelder ; Margie Milam ; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxSent: Sun Mar 29 17:28:39 2009Subject: [liaison6c] RE: [council] Draft Revisions to the ICANN Bylaws Relating to GNSO RestructureI support the suggestion to move voting thresholds to the Rules but with a condition in the Rules that any changes to the thresholds requires a high voting bar (at least 60% of both houses) and that the Bylaws require Board approval of the Rules and any amendments to the Rules. In my opinion, the consensus reached on GNSO restructure was highly dependent on the interdependency of several elements of the restructure recommendations. In particular, the recommended thresholds were a very crucial part of the overall package that we agreed to, so if it is too easy to change those, it could compromise the whole set of recommendations.I do not agree that this document is almost ready. I think we have quite a bit of work to do still and this is much too important to rush. I am all for doing it quickly, but let's make sure we carefully deal with all the issues that are being identified. In that regard, I think it would be helpful if Staff prepared a document organized similar to what they have already done that integrates all the various comments including their source with each section.Chuck ----------From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken BourSent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:59 PMTo: 'Stéphane Van Gelder'; 'Margie Milam'; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [council] Draft Revisions to the ICANN Bylaws Relating to GNSO RestructureStéphane:Thank you for your prompt initiative and the supportive observations. Please see my embedded comments below.If there are any other questions, please continue to raise them. In the interest of time, we recognize and appreciate the Council?s active interest and remain committed to timely and thorough replies.Ken BourFrom: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van GelderSent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:05 PM To: Margie Milam; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: [council] Draft Revisions to the ICANN Bylaws Relating to GNSO RestructureMargie,Thanks for sending these on. As we are so pushed for time, allow me to get the ball rolling on this discussion and make a few comments.Section 3. Article 1.Moving the ?geographic regions goalposts? up from ?no 2 members? to ?no 3 members? seems like a sensible suggestion for those SGs with 6 Council members. I agree with it.[KAB: ] Staff appreciates your support of this provision. Section 3. Article 3. What?s your rationale for recommending that ?vacancy rules? be moved to OR&Ps?[KAB: ] The only specific provision, in this section, deals with the removal of an NCA for cause and includes the actual voting thresholds. One of Staff?s sub-objectives in this re-drafting assignment was to eliminate any/all provisions that, in its judgment, could be more effectively accommodated within internal Council procedures. One area identified was detailed voting thresholds and another involved this topic of vacancies, removals, and resignations. Staff suggests that such provisions do not rise to the level of being required in ICANN-level legal Bylaws. In the event that new Council voting thresholds are added or modified, in the future, such changes could be accomplished locally versus requiring protracted formal Bylaws amendments. Similarly, procedures for handling Council vacancies, resignations, and other administrative matters seem more appropriate for OR&P vs. corporate Bylaws.Section 3. Article 7. Are there no voting thresholds for selecting the chair and vice-chairs?[KAB: ] Yes, there are bicameral house voting thresholds for these positions and, as discussed above, they will be prescribed in the Council?s OR&P currently under revision by the GNSO Operations Work Team (Ray Fassett, Chair) under the auspices of the Operations Steering Committee (OSC). The Council Chair election requires 60% of both houses and the Vice-Chair positions are prescribed in the following language, inserted below:?The GNSO Council shall also select two Vice Chairs, one elected from each of the two voting houses. If the Council Chair is elected from one of the houses, then the non-voting Council-Level Nominating Committee Appointee shall serve as one of the Vice Chairs in lieu of the Vice Chair from the house of the elected Chair. If the Chair is elected from one of the houses, that person shall retain his/her vote in that house.?Section 3. Article 8.I agree the voting threshold descriptions belong in the OR&Ps, but it would be helpful for our discussion of the bylaws to have a reminder of what they are. Can you provide a link to where they are please?[KAB: ] The voting thresholds originally prescribed by the Working Group on GNSO Council Restructuring (WG-GCR) contained both PDP and non-PDP elements. In this re-drafting exercise, Staff is recommending that they be parsed out as follows: the non-PDP voting thresholds will be contained in Council OR&P while the PDP thresholds will be included in Article XX?Transition until such time as the Policy Process Steering Committee (PPSC) and PDP Work Team (Jeff Neumann, Chair) have completed deliberations and are prepared to recommend a formal revision to Annex A of the Bylaws. Since the PDP thresholds are currently specified in Annex A, which is not being revised as part of this restructuring effort, Staff recommends that the new PDP thresholds should be included in Article XX vs. Council OR&P. Article XX is a ?transition? document only and, once the PDP voting thresholds are successfully relocated from Annex A to the Council OR&P (Staff?s recommendation), Article XX can be removed from the Bylaws in its entirety (assuming all other transition matters are completed). Below are the voting thresholds recast into the two groupings:
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