Re: [council] Proposed Resolution re Domain Tasting
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- Subject: Re: [council] Proposed Resolution re Domain Tasting
- From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:39:35 +0200
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According to the by-laws, whether we create a Task Force or use the
non Task Force method, we can have people other then the council
members be on the Task Force or be responsible for soliciting
constituency statements. No matter ha method we use, we can also se
up a working group that is open. The only restriction is that this
working group must complete it work within 35 days.
Once all of the required process of either the Task force or Non Task
force process are completed, and the council goes into
deliberations. Unless I read the by-laws incorrectly, we have a
certain amount of leeway once we have entered deliberations.
As for voting, since we have been called by one of our members for
not following the by-laws in terms of timing, I believe that we need
to take the votes today in order to meet the obligations set in the
On 11 okt 2007, at 11.26, Thomas Keller wrote:
If we should go down the path of a PDP I would strongly suggest
create a working group instead of taking it on as a Committee of the
My reason for saying this is that I observed that council does not
very efficient if all of the policy work is conducted by this group.
I would rather like to see the council evolve into a direction
are more managing and guiding the overall GNSO policy process
developing policy recommendations ourself. Spreading the councilor
to thin will not help to deal with all issues the GNSO has on its
As to the point of voting on this matter I have to agree with Robin
we are not in a hurry and that the decision on whether we invoke a PDP
or not can easily wait until LA, which gives counilors (and I might
for the registrars reps only in this respect) more time to consult
Am 10.10.2007 schrieb Robin Gross:
I'm concerned that we are moving too fast with this issue. I still
haven't seen why this is such a pressing concern and I haven't been
convinced a PDP is the right next step. I think more work needs
done to justify the need for a PDP rather than just assume that is
next course and hurry to get there.
Ross Rader wrote:
presuming this goes down the PDP path, the council should attempt to
do so within the confines of the process outlined in the bylaws.
not to sound critical, but why does this keep getting ignored?
The motion should be amended to strike the proposed timelines and
instead use those found in the PDP as outlined in the bylaws. I'm
in favor of assuming, out of the gate, that we can't work within the
timelines required by the PDP. If this is the case, then I'm likely
inclined to believe that we have too much work in front of us to
reasonably proceed along the timelines specified and we've
our efforts badly. If we have too much work in front of us, then we
shouldn't be voting in favor of every PDP request that comes down
Avri Doria wrote:
Thanks for submitting the motion.
My original planning for tomorrow's meeting had been to discuss the
report at this meting and then work our way toward a decision on a
PDP at the meeting on 31 Oct after the open comments. Would
acceptable or do you think we should vote on it as soon as
In any case, as things currently stand in the bylaws we cannot do a
working group as the main vehicle in a PDP, but need to either
Committee of the Whole or a Task Force. We can create Working
Groups for other purposes and as spins-off to investigate specific
issues but until the by-laws are changed, not for PDP processes.
Please let me know if holding the vote on this motion until the
meeting in LA is ok.
On 9 okt 2007, at 02.40, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:
I offer the following draft resolution, taken from the Final
Outcomes Report of the ad hoc group:
Whereas, the GNSO Council acknowledges the Final Outcomes
the ad hoc group on Domain Tasting, the Council hereby initiates a
Policy Development Process, and commissions a duly constituted
Working Group with the following Terms of Reference:
1. Review and assess all the effects of domain tasting activities
that have been identified.
2. Judge whether the overall effects justify measures to be
impede domain tasting.
3. If the answer to 2 is affirmative, then consider the likely
impacts upon the Constituencies of various potential measures, and
recommend measures designed to impede domain tasting.
This Working Group shall report back to Council by January 24,
I am sure this needs additional language about PDPs, at least, but
thought this would be a good start for discussion.